One sound file question...

[Warhero]

Well I noticed that 12.7 AAMG sound is wrong (for example in Finland, Danmark and USA OOBs). In Mobhack seems to be sound number "0" (Finland) and "4" (USA) but they both are wrong ones... So, could anyone tell me right sound number? I could fix it in Mobhack myself if I only have right one...

Thanks in advance
Warhero

[DRG]

Sound "0" is default sound...... . 208 is generally the one used for a 12.7 aamg in the unitweapons sound slots. However there are no units in MBT that use sound 4 and only one weapon and it's used in none of the OOB's you refer to and in any event, it's wrong so lets start with an example such as what unit number you are refering to and where are you seeing sound number "0" (Finland) and "4" (USA) 'cause I think maybe there is some confusion how sound is handled in the game since the last release


Don

[Mobhack]

Actually sound 0 is the default sound for any weapon. (the code chooses it).

Andy

[Warhero]

Hmm I just checked from Mobhack. Denmark has 12.7 M50 AAMG sound 0. Sorry I somehow messed with Finland. It has not 12.7 M50 AAMG at all (just NSV/DShK), but has NSVT/DShK AAMG both sound 0. Should it be same 208?

Warhero

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Warhero

Hmm I just checked from Mobhack. Denmark has 12.7 M50 AAMG sound 0. Sorry I somehow messed with Finland. It has not 12.7 M50 AAMG at all (just NSV/DShK), but has NSVT/DShK AAMG both sound 0. Should it be same 208?

Warhero

Are you are referring to the WEAPON sound value...or the UNIT sound value...... Yes ?? No ??


As Andy said "sound 0 is the default sound for any weapon" IF the game finds zero under WEAPON sound it then looks for a sound value under UNIT weapon sound and if it finds one there it uses it but if it finds under unit weapons it uses the hard coded default weapon sound .

As explained when the latest versions of the game were released we have included a NEW "Weapon sound value" . Before this release last release we just used UNIT sound values .....and we still do..... but now weapon sound values take precedence over unitweapon sound values UNLESS the WEAPON sound value is ZERO

For what I can guess because you won't tell me where you are looking, if you are looking at the WEAPON sound value and seeing ZERO and thinking this is an error... it is NOT and error........YES Denmark has 12.7 M50 AAMG sound 0 in the WEAPONS data ( that would be weapon 55...... useful info to provide when you are looking for answers...) but the units that use the Denmark 12.7 M50 AAMG ........

users of weapon ID 55 12.7 M50 AAMG:
002 - M24 - uClass 131 : slot 3 - Available 05/052 to 12/062
003 - M41 - uClass 131 : slot 3 - Available 01/062 to 12/087
005 - M10 Achilles - uClass 018 : slot 2 - Available 03/053 to 12/082
006 - Centurion Mk 5 - uClass 018 : slot 3 - Available 01/082 to 12/092
008 - M4A3E4 Sherman - uClass 102 : slot 3 - Available 05/052 to 12/054
017 - Centurion Mk 5 - uClass 013 : slot 3 - Available 01/058 to 12/063
018 - Centurion Mk 5 - uClass 013 : slot 3 - Available 01/064 to 12/082
019 - Centurion Mk5/2 - uClass 013 : slot 3 - Available 01/064 to 12/085
020 - Centurion 5/2DK - uClass 013 : slot 3 - Available 01/085 to 12/099
030 - M5A1/81 - uClass 038 : slot 2 - Available 01/058 to 12/067
031 - M125A2 - uClass 038 : slot 2 - Available 01/076 to 07/106
032 - M125 - uClass 038 : slot 2 - Available 01/064 to 12/075
040 - M109 - uClass 021 : slot 2 - Available 01/064 to 12/089
041 - M109A3 - uClass 021 : slot 2 - Available 01/085 to 12/120
043 - M113/TOW - uClass 019 : slot 2 - Available 01/077 to 12/083
044 - M113/ITOW - uClass 019 : slot 2 - Available 01/087 to 12/089
045 - M113/TOW-2 - uClass 019 : slot 2 - Available 01/090 to 12/120
056 - M5A1 Halftrack - uClass 121 : slot 1 - Available 01/055 to 12/058
057 - M3A1 Halftrack - uClass 121 : slot 1 - Available 01/058 to 12/065
059 - M113 - uClass 121 : slot 1 - Available 01/062 to 12/090
060 - M113A1 - uClass 121 : slot 1 - Available 01/078 to 12/110
061 - M113A1 HA - uClass 121 : slot 1 - Available 01/098 to 12/120
073 - M113 - uClass 025 : slot 1 - Available 01/065 to 12/090
074 - M113A1 - uClass 025 : slot 1 - Available 01/078 to 12/110
075 - M113A1 HA - uClass 025 : slot 1 - Available 01/098 to 12/120
076 - Piranha III - uClass 023 : slot 1 - Available 01/099 to 12/120
077 - Piranha III HA - uClass 023 : slot 1 - Available 01/099 to 12/120
210 - M113 Dozer - uClass 037 : slot 1 - Available 01/075 to 12/120
215 - FO M113 - uClass 057 : slot 1 - Available 01/064 to 12/088
219 - FO M113 - uClass 057 : slot 1 - Available 01/089 to 12/120
220 - FO M113 - uClass 057 : slot 1 - Available 01/100 to 12/120
226 - M5A1 Halftrack - uClass 180 : slot 1 - Available 01/046 to 02/053
232 - Ammo Ship - uClass 056 : slot 1 - Available 01/046 to 12/120
234 - M-548 Ammo Carr - uClass 056 : slot 1 - Available 01/070 to 12/120
250 - LCM - uClass 041 : slot 2 - Available 01/046 to 12/120
250 - LCM - uClass 041 : slot 3 - Available 01/046 to 12/120
251 - LCVP - uClass 041 : slot 2 - Available 01/060 to 12/120
251 - LCVP - uClass 041 : slot 3 - Available 01/060 to 12/120
252 - LCU - uClass 041 : slot 2 - Available 01/063 to 12/120
252 - LCU - uClass 041 : slot 3 - Available 01/063 to 12/120
345 - MOWAG Eagle IV - uClass 219 : slot 1 - Available 01/106 to 12/120
400 - Fast Patrol Bt - uClass 199 : slot 1 - Available 01/058 to 12/102
402 - Assault Boat - uClass 199 : slot 2 - Available 01/080 to 12/120
402 - Assault Boat - uClass 199 : slot 3 - Available 01/080 to 12/120
404 - Multi-Role Bt - uClass 199 : slot 2 - Available 01/088 to 12/120
440 - MRAP 6x6 - uClass 237 : slot 1 - Available 03/111 to 12/120
450 - GMTF(DURO IIIP) - uClass 217 : slot 1 - Available 01/110 to 12/120
499 - M24 - uClass 012 : slot 3 - Available 01/060 to 12/075
500 - M41 - uClass 012 : slot 3 - Available 01/075 to 12/087
502 - Centurion Dozer - uClass 037 : slot 3 - Available 01/064 to 12/085
503 - Centurion Dozer - uClass 037 : slot 3 - Available 01/058 to 12/063

.........for the most part all use weapon sound 208

I hope this is clear now becasue I am running out of ways to explain it...... we can use two places in the code to give a weapon a sound. unit weapons and now weapons...unitweapons is the place we have been adding it for years but now we have it in weapons as well and that one is the master and any number BUT ZERO will override any entry in unitweapons...... but if there is a zero in weapons sound then the game uses whatever number has been entered in the unit weapons sound field.

To simplify this further the ONLY weapons that currently have ANY number other than ZERO in the weapons sound field are hvy sniper rifles that use the new sound 30. The change was made this time around so that IN THE FUTURE I can add new sounds directly at the weapon instead if dozens of places in unitweapons so there is nothing wrong the game is operating sound correctly .......NORMAL would be finding zero in the weapons sound slot in MOBHack for this release


Don

[Warhero]

Sorry I meant weapon number. I got changed 0 into 208 and now it's ok. Sounds much better now.

Thanks about help!
Warhero

[DRG]

WHICH weapon number "got changed 0 into 208 and now it's ok" ....which nation ??? WHICH unit was not giving the correct sound in WHICH OOB ?

Here are all the units in the US OOB that use the 12.7mm M85 AAMG

016 - M60A1 Patton - uClass 013 : slot 3 - Available 01/062 to 12/071
017 - M60A2 Patton - uClass 013 : slot 4 - Available 01/074 to 12/081
018 - M60A1 Patton - uClass 013 : slot 3 - Available 01/072 to 12/077
019 - M60A3 Patton - uClass 013 : slot 3 - Available 01/079 to 12/089
025 - M60A1 RISE P - uClass 013 : slot 3 - Available 01/078 to 12/083
183 - LVTP7 - uClass 034 : slot 1 - Available 01/072 to 12/120
186 - LCAC - uClass 239 : slot 1 - Available 01/084 to 12/120
186 - LCAC - uClass 239 : slot 2 - Available 01/084 to 12/120
187 - M60A3 (TTS) - uClass 013 : slot 3 - Available 08/079 to 12/089
195 - M728 CEV - uClass 037 : slot 3 - Available 06/065 to 12/078
197 - M60 Mine Plow - uClass 036 : slot 3 - Available 01/079 to 12/092
228 - M60A3 (TTS) - uClass 013 : slot 3 - Available 01/090 to 12/092
313 - M60 Patton - uClass 013 : slot 3 - Available 01/060 to 12/062
314 - M728 CEV - uClass 037 : slot 3 - Available 01/079 to 02/097
619 - M60A3 (TTS) - uClass 131 : slot 3 - Available 08/097 to 12/120
631 - M60A1 Patton - uClass 102 : slot 3 - Available 01/080 to 12/090
632 - M60A3 Patton - uClass 102 : slot 3 - Available 01/085 to 12/095
633 - M60A3 (TTS) - uClass 102 : slot 3 - Available 01/086 to 12/098
638 - M60 Patton - uClass 102 : slot 3 - Available 01/070 to 12/074
639 - M60 Patton - uClass 102 : slot 3 - Available 01/075 to 12/080


WHICH ONE did not give the correct sound ?? When reporting problems like this we need unit number or weapon number and exactly which OOB and I still don't know any of that and weare up to post 8

Since I have to guess I would guess the problem was with the M60A1 RISE P

[Warhero]

Ok
Denmark OOB35:
005 Mech Inf Co (M113 uses that M50 AAMG)
007 Mech Inf Co(+) (same here)
Finland OOB65:
097 Pz Pioneer Pl (MT-LBv uses NSVT AAMG)
098 Pz Pioneer Co

Hopefully these help you. I can add here more if I find any else.

Hmm I'm not sure about that US thing... All AAMG sound seems to be ok in Mobhack. Well I can return this later if I notice any wrong sounds ok?

Warhero

[DRG]

OK, this is info I can work with.

All the numbers in what we now use for "weapon sound" in the weapons list were supposed to be cleared down to zero in all OOB's with a little program that was written to do that and it appears in some cases those were missed. I found an RPG in the North Korean OOB with an improper sound file number as well

If anyone else finds a weapon uses a weird sound let us know the unit number and weapon if possible. As the very least we need nation, year and formation

Thanks

HOWEVER........... BE ADVISED AND ANYONE USING A CUSTOM OOB CREATED BEFORE THIS LAST RELEASE WILL EXPERIENCE SOUND PROBLEMS UNLESS EVERY WEAPON IS CHECKED AND THE WEAPON SOUND NUMBER SET TO ZERO.
Don

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Warhero

Finland OOB65:
097 Pz Pioneer Pl (MT-LBv uses NSVT AAMG)
098 Pz Pioneer Co

Are you sure you are using our OOB's ???

The MT-LBv used by the Finn 097 Pz Pioneer Pl does NOT have a NSVT AAMG in the stock OOB's

The BTR-50PUM-1 that can also be used by that unit DOES have a NSVT AAMG using weapons sound 111 and that is a normal sound for the NSVT AAMG


Don