Counter against Agartha's Marble Oracles? - Page 3

archaeolept · #21 April 23rd, 2009, 12:57 PM

as I recall, elfbane had a bug whereby the normal attack did not occur against magic beings. I'd go with a smasher, or a moonblade. massed nether darts would also be fun.

as they are size 4, any size 4 or above unit will be immune to their trampling, and they will just stay in place trying to punch your large meatshield unit.

Fantomen · #22 April 23rd, 2009, 05:59 PM

It isn´t a magic being IIRC.

Psycho · #23 April 23rd, 2009, 06:09 PM

Well, I did two tests. On one side a marble oracle with behemoth boots and braces of protection and 20 pd (EA Ulm pd). On the other side a bane lord and a lizard shaman. Lizard shaman scripted to: luck, body ethereal, retreat.

In the first bane lord had a smasher, a gold shield and a ring of regen. In the second I switched the gold shield for a chain of displ. Both times the oracle couldn't scratch the bane lord except with smites from holy avenger. Bane lord easily won both times. He was at 40-42 hit points all the time, except for one lucky smite that did him 16 damage. No fear of him getting killed.

Of course with boots of quickness he would be even more effective. If you can afford it, slap them and an AMA on him as well. But I don't think it's needed against the opposition you described.

Viajero · #24 April 24th, 2009, 03:19 AM

Thanks for all the suggestions... yes it seems the marble oracles are not as fearsome as I thought... tends to happen with newbies as me. We overreact to things... as anecdotal, on my first game I overreacted to encountering some hydras produced early on by a veteran player playing as Pythum and therefore decided to rush him, also as Ermor... I have just eliminated the veteran player under 35 turns! had to apologize at the end!

but... as some shrewed businessman said sometime ago... only the paranoids survive!

Fantomen · #25 April 24th, 2009, 12:40 PM

The marble oracles can be mighty fearsome if your opponent has a strong bloodstone economy and/or deep well. They are relatively cheap and Agartha can produce them en masse if played right. You can counter 1 but can you counter 15 with mage support and other statues as bodyguards? Behemoth boots seems like a bad choice of equipment though.