Mark,
They are
missing on purpose as the Mig-29 wasn't used in any other role except as a fighter in both the
DDR and
Luftwaffe. This all
STARTED on
08-26-12, 04:06 AM God that seems so long ago. I'm just glad I remember these but, it goes to show the data is in these threads generally.
See the following
Posts 96-98,
Posts 114-117 and
Post 123 (F-4).
From
Post 96 ...
"6. Also, several East German units will need to be deleted to include all MiG-29A and MiG-29M (Which as now known they never had.) which like the MiG-29M includes the Mil-24W HIND. Below is the response I received concerning the East German use of the MiG-29A as a possible SEAD unit as posted in the previous post as well.
Note: A little tone changes which is my fault as I should've indicated "configurations offered" or some such as my wording caused the response.
"Pat,
What you say here about four East German MiG 29s being used for SEAD doesn't sound reasonable. As an air superiority aircraft designed for air defence why would the East Germans use four for SEAD purposes? That role would be better suited to a unit armed with the SU 25 and probably assigned to a Soviet unit rather than divert four MiG 29s from their basic role. Just my thoughts.
Regards,
Gordon"
And another response I just got from "RAMJET"/Steve LSK/LV(DDR)/LUFTWAFFE MiG-29A pilot...
"The LSK/LV as well as the Luftwaffe used the MiG-29 only as a fighter aircraft. There were some trials in the air-to-ground role with unguided rockets in the DDR times if I remember right, but these were just trials."
Don might remember these posts, Gordon and Steve were
both LSK/LV (DDR) and Luftwaffe
MIG-29 pilots. I believe Gordan continued flying when the Luftwaffe received the
F-4 Phantoms as would Steve.
Steve would continue his career as a
EUROFIGHTER pilot as mentioned in the
144-117 posts somewhere. He took
ALL the pictures from the posts I listed above.
Somewhere in this "
chain of posts" beyond his
Post 98 was where the final decision was made which I believe was achieved by PM between us and passing along a couple of emails from both Gordon and Steve to remove them. How can you make the case when 2 actual LSK/LV Mig-29 pilots are saying it they didn't use them except for what they were designed to do as Air Superiority Fighters.
How did I find these guys? Well, I saw an issue and dug for my information and found an East German LSK/LV Pilots association in Germany this is how I got with Gordan which as the email I quoted above would lead to Steve and his generosity in sending me his pictures and giving us permission to use them in the game. In the Helo Thread he also sent me pictures of the
DDR and
Luftwaffe HIND-24 Helicopters fairly close to the dates the above posts where sent.
For "GP"...
https://d-d-r.de/ddr-politisches-sys...itkraefte.html
(Might need to use your translator. Was posted translated maybe still is.)
Regards,
Pat
