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		Ok, I am official frustrated. Microsoft's latest patch has forced me back to using Internet Explorer (which really sucks) to get my PBW turns. 
 
I made the mistake earlier tonight of downloading the latest Microsoft security patch. Since doing that I can no longer download and save ANY files from websites using Opera. IE, strangely enough, works fine (that is, it works as crappy as it always did)  
 
For example, I tried repeatedly, using all possible permutations, to get my PBW turns. The files start downloading, and then Opera crashes.  
 
Does anyone have any suggestions what might be wrong that I can try to solve here? 
 
I use Win XP (home) and the latest Opera.  
 
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		Have you tried reinstalling Opera? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Yes, reinstall Opera.  So long as you haven't actually switched operating systems, that will probably take care of it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Its a problem - have you tried mozilla ? or netscape more compatible with microsoft - im assuming the open source community will be right on it though. 
The patch fixed a database transfer tool that allows data transmission between desparate operating systems. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Thanks all, I haven't tried it yet, but I will. I'll letcha all know how it goes... 
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		I had to switch to Netscape after the Last MS patch for win2k.  So I feel your pain.  MS is about useless in helping to solve the problems there "patches" cause. 
 
About useless is wrong, they are utterly useless.  After about a month MS finally acknowledged that their patch had issues, and those issues would screw up many "non" microsft web browsers and on rare occations even IE would be effected.  Well I was a rare instance, and had to go to Mozilla which I could not get to work either.  Only netscape worked, and I have never looked back. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		bah browsers are for the week. 
telnet to pbw and do your turns with the command line       
I am using opera right now.  Great browser..
 
I hope the reinstall does the trick..
 
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		Has anyone tried to sue MS for these kinds of malicious practices/incompetences.  If MS was a hospital, they would be in jail for 2000 years! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Thanks all for the advice.  I tried FireFox, it's nice, very similar to OPera, but I really didn't like the way it dealt with a few things, especially downloads and tabs (if it could be set to automatically open new bookmarks into *seperate* tabs, then I might have stuck with it, but I usually cycle through 20-30 bookmarks regularly, and having to "right-clik to open into seperate tabbed window" was too much of a pain).  
 
And, Opera really does have a better layout I think.  
 
So, in the end, I purged Opera, reinstalled it, and I can once again easily download turns from PBW! woo hoo! 
 
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