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				 Question about independent castles. 
 In one of my games, I am besieging an independent castle.  It's a fortified city.I assume that once I breach the walls, I will face defenders.  I fully intend
 to waste one turn sending a commander to probe their strength, but I would still
 like to hear what I am likely to find.  Random independents?  A preset army,
 probably made out of elite forces?  Nothing whatsoever?
 
 This castle is not one left by a defeated player, I am sure of it.  I am reasonably
 sure it was there before anyone took the province and searched it, although I admit
 that I did not see the province when it was independent - another player was
 besieging the castle before I came.
 
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				 Re: Question about independent castles. 
 Normally independent castles are due to magic sites of the non-magic variety.  Inside you usually find whatever independent units that the province can make, there's usually nothing special in there. 
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				 Re: Question about independent castles. 
 First send in something cheap, like a scout. You can even position him way at the back of the formation, and have him set to do an immeadiate retreat. It will usually give you back that unit, and a peek at what is waiting for you inside. 
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				 Re: Question about independent castles. 
 This is very good advice, but as I mentioned, this castle is actually near thefront lines.  In order to begin the siege, I had to chase a player away, and I
 would like to put my besiegers back into the war as soon as possible.  I am
 weighting the risks associated with launching a blind assault.
 
 What weapons do independent castle defenders use from the walls and towers?
 Crossbows?  Short bows?  Slings?
 
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				 Re: Question about independent castles. 
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		| Gandalf Parker said: First send in something cheap, like a scout. You can even position him way at the back of the formation, and have him set to do an immeadiate retreat. It will usually give you back that unit, and a peek at what is waiting for you inside.
 
 |  Gandalf and I still hunger for the #patrol command, so one group can guard the outside and another guard the inside.  We could then make more interesting maps.
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				 Re: Question about independent castles. 
 Endoperez already found a great workaround.Code: 
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