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		OK i want people to give me their advices... i want to play my next game as a crystallurgy race but i'd like to know if its an advantageous trait. 
 
Of course i get cheap armor early on. But when faced with things like Psychic or Temporary, do Crystallurgy stand a chance? 
 
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		im just thinking... if i manage to get to level 6+ of crystalline weapons i'm fine because Energy Dampener is a good gun, and so is HEM. 
 
Is Crystalline Armor is a good piece of technology, overall? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Build a ship with 6 CA. It will block 90 damage (6x15) per shot. But watch out for NSP and get phased shields ASAP, CA with normal shields is no use against PPB. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		well, its still a decent armor -- and pretty cheap at that! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		The Facilities are fantastic.   
30% maintence reduction is good.
 
Crystal eats more rads than normal....  So build a few extra rad factories
 
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OK i want people to give me their advices... i want to play my next game as a crystallurgy race but i'd like to know if its an advantageous trait. 
 
Of course i get cheap armor early on. But when faced with things like Psychic or Temporary, do Crystallurgy stand a chance? 
 
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 Crystallurgy is a defensive trait at best: the three facilities you get are defensive; Maintenance reduction on ships, Shields increase on ships, and resources generation through sunlight; all useful things to players who are in lack of ships and resources. 
 
Weapons whoever, are definitely offensive; you get a faster, and only a bit weaker IMHO, substitute for the WMG, and long range armor skipping weapons. You also get seekers, and and reload time distruptors, which is very useful. 
 
But the unfortunate thing is, is that All the other traits have more powerful stuff. All those pros don't hold a candle to the Allegiance Converter, the Talisman, and the TSY. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		hmm agree. But defensive.. the Solar Panels are great because you no longer depend on the values, and the maintenance reduction allows you to put those extra ships out there. Is it realy that defensive? Considering the VERY CHEAP armor and weapons, plus the maintenance reduction on the bases and remote miners, they're good for resources. 
Thats their best advantage though. They have good weapons.... but racial weapons level 6-10 are very difficult to get. Costly. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		well yes, but you can use better remote extraction, cheaper bases and cheaper defenses. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		You can not get the better remote mining in those asteroid ring systems though. 
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