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				 Question:  Engines and firing order 
 I am aware that weapons fire in the order that they are listed in the ship design.  Now I'm wondering whether engines behave in the same way.  That is, does it make a difference where engines are placed during the design phase? 
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				January 9th, 2004, 05:15 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Question:  Engines and firing order 
 Nope.  Just don't mix engine types; they will act as the lowest engine installed.  
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				 Re: Question:  Engines and firing order 
 Hmm, I wonder what would happen if, say you have one Ion Engine III and 5 Quantum Engine III's on your ship.  Your speed will be only 6 because it takes the lowest Version of engine, so it's the same as having 6 Ion Engines.
 Then you get into battle, and your Ion Engine is hit and destroyed.  Would your speed suddenly increase?
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				 Re: Question:  Engines and firing order 
 Yes it would.
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				January 9th, 2004, 08:36 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Question:  Engines and firing order 
 is it the same for supply? 
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				 Re: Question:  Engines and firing order 
 Narf, I gather you mean the supply component.  Though I've never tried it, I'm sure mixing levels 1, 2 and 3 will not force them all to act as level 1's.   The same would apply for cargo.  Each component, no matter what the level will act as it should.  Note: supplies for each engine type and level are the same-- 500 units. 
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				 Re: Question:  Engines and firing order 
 Are you sure about engines ??? I thought all "ship movement" are add up and then devided by "engines per move". Otherwise how "efficient engines" work in Proportions    
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				 Re: Question:  Engines and firing order 
 Engines use 2 wholely separate abilities. Standard movement is added up and then divided by engines per move. Bonus movement is not. In stock, all engines have 1 standard movement. They just have increasing bonus movement. With bonuse movement, you get the worst bonus from all components on the ship that have the bonus movement ability. So, 5 QE and 1 Ion Engine give you a worst bonus movement of 1, resulting in only 6 movement for the ship, rather than 9 with all 6 QE.
 Proportions/AIC (and other mods with QNP type propulsion models) primarily use engines with increasing amounts of standard movement and no bonus movement. Mixing true QNP engines does not result in any loss of movement points, unlike mixing stock engines.
 
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				 Re: Question:  Engines and firing order 
 Exactly what Fryon said. True for unmodded, but not for standard engines in mods with QNP, such as Proportions, AIC, or P&N.
 As for components with supply storage, their destruction simply reduces the supply storage capacity of the ship. Supplies are only destroyed when supply capacity is reduced below the current amount of supplies on the ship. I don't know how anyone would think this would be related to the discussions on engines, speed, or firing order.
 
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				 Re: Question:  Engines and firing order 
 Ah , thanks ! I see     
Last time I played unmoded SEIV was more than a year ago. Get used so much to QNP mods that totaly forgot how it works in the stock game   
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