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				 Ambiguous test: 
 I think it was in my freshman year my psychology professor did a little survey. I was surprised by the results and now I am curious as to how it will turn out here. It is two simple questions that should (if he is right, and he was) correlate to one another. One is about your origin; the other is in response to an ambiguous statement.
 Edited in: It is important not to view the results until after voting so I turned that feature on. I decided not to set a time limit as I know many of use are busy and it can take time to get around to voting. Max participation would be nice also, thanks in advance for voting.
 
 Both questions are ambiguous, just use your personal definition to answer each, there is no “right” or “wrong” answer.
 
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				January 13th, 2004, 05:56 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Ambiguous test: 
 2 & 1
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				January 13th, 2004, 05:59 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Ambiguous test: 
 I assume that you want "suburbs" to count as "city," even though they are not really "in the city"... |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Ambiguous test: 
 I grew up in a small town (farming community), so answered as "country".  Hope that's correct...Greybeard |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Ambiguous test: 
 Where is Small-town on the list?      and for that matter My first reaction to #2 was option c. which was also missing from the questionaire.      
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				 Re: Ambiguous test: 
 You know, having lived in both types of settings(I grew up in Detroit suburbs), I can undestand the results of this poll, and actually had a pretty good idea of how it would turn out before I answered it.  But, I will withhold this thought until a few more people get a chance to answer the poll.
 
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				 Re: Ambiguous test: 
 Looks like my pick if 1-2 was canceled by someone picking 2-1. Oh, that was AT.              But it must have happened a second time with a different pair, because there was most certainly not a 1:1 correlation between the questions when I had answered it... and AT answered before I did. What would be a lot more useful would be a set of results that list what you chose for both answers at the same time. Perhaps a poll with the same questions, but your answer has to be "city/got shot," "city/missed," "country/got shot," or "country/missed." This way, you get accurate information, instead of all these people that did not choose based on the "average relation." As it is now, the results are fairly suspect and do not actually show anything valid. It is possible that 10 people out of the 19 that answered so far did not pick "city/got shot" or "country/missed," which was the intended correlation. It could be that there are 5 "city/missed," 5 "country/got shot" and then 9 "city/got shot" selections. There is no way to know with the current poll.
 
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				 Re: Ambiguous test: 
 no, technically not.  but i have known enough human beings to tell you what the results are going to be.  the only thing we are missing seeing is the small differences that reflect this particular group of voters.
 re-arranging the questions the way you suggest will affect the way people thing about the poll.  they will see both questions at once, instead of one after the other, and will then be more inclined to answer in a way that represents how they would like to think about it, rather than how they actually think.  there could still be some of that happening, but people are less likely to go back and change their answer, once having read and considered the questions.
 
 its just a flaw in the polling system.
 
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				 Re: Ambiguous test: 
 I picked 1) City and 1) got shot. 
But my initial reaction to question 2 was that someone 'other' than the hunter got shot. not that he shot himself.
 
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	Not at all. Exactly my reaction, and then I chose 1) as being slightly closer to what I thought. But still, the "correct" answer for me is missingQuote: 
	
		| Originally posted by David E. Gervais: But my initial reaction to question 2 was that someone 'other' than the hunter got shot. not that he shot himself.
 
 I guess that means I'm strange.
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