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				Fighters still don\'t use supply in combat
	
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		I tried a battle in the simulator with a figher design that had no supplies by giving it a design with no engines, just weapons and an an afterburner III.  Both weapons and afterburner are supposed to consume supply.  The ship moved 3 spaces per turn, just like a supplied afterburner is supposed to provide, and the weapons fired and did the damage that supplied weapons would do.  I've only tried this in the simulator, maybe "real-life" fighter combat does require supply with v. 1.49 but I doubt it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Weapons in SE4 do not require supplies to fire, though they do spend supplies. 
Combat movement does not use up supplies either, but should require them. 
 
So it just looks like the afterburner is buggy, and should not provide extra movement when supplies are depleted. 
 
Try putting one engine on the fighter, and see if it slows down to 1MP when it runs outta supplies (use the most ammo-draining weapons you can find) 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		This is what the Online manual in Version 1.49 says about supply requirements for firing weapons: 
 
"Also, since supplies are needed to fire your weapons, you will probably not be able to fire many of them." 
 
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		You've got SE4 V1.49? 
 
I don't, and I don't see the patch at MM or shrapnel. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		A link was posted here, briefly. 
 
I'm thinking maybe thye found a nasty little bug they want to take care of first, and took it down. The post on the forum certainly disappeared. 
 
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		Yeah, I saw that thread, but when I clicked it, they were in the middle of deleting it, and my browser only got a bit of it. 
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