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				Firing order - which empire goes first?
	
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		I know this question's been asked a million times before and it's probably in the Newbie FAQ, but I forgot the answer and the search engine on this forum really sucks... 
So, in what order do ships fire in simultaneous combat? Does the player who got added to the game first still get to shoot first?     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		In Gold, the defender goes first in combat. If there are multiple defenders or attackers, then the order that they go is randomly determined. ed: If A attacks both B and C in a sector, then the movement order could be B, C, A or it could be C, B, A. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		True 'nuf Imperator.  But what defines defender?   
 
It may be random when two fleets cross, but not really. 
 
It seems like at warp points, whoever was there first goes first, but I've seen that not be the case once and a while. 
 
What about planet attacks - who gets to launch fighters first?  It doesn't really matter, but I am curious. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Actually, it's not in the FAQ (Yet!) 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		efender is anyone that was in the sector already. Attacker is someone that just moved into the sector. 
Or, if all parties were already in the sector, the Attacker is the one that issues the Attack order. In a Simultaneous game, I would assume that if both players give the attack order at the same time, the lower player number gets to be the attacker.
   
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 If A warps through and finds B already in the sector, B is the defender and A is the attacker. But if A warps through, and then B moves onto the sector in a later game day, B is the attacker and A is the defender. 
 
 
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 The planet is generally on the defender side, unless the person owning the planet sends ships in to stop a blockade. Whoever moves first (the defender) is the one that gets to launch fighters first. 
  
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		Yeah, what if 2 fleets have intercept orders for each other?     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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Yeah, what if 2 fleets have intercept orders for each other?     
			
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 Then it depends on when they meet, and who is faster. 
 
The lower numbered player's ships seem to move first in strategic movement, so maybe the lower numbered player becomes the attacker when both fleets are the same speed. 
 
But, it gets fuzzy. If the fleets start an even number of sectors away, they can pass each other by, as they will both move into the next sector over on the same day. If they are an odd number apart, then they will meet. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		And I think I recall, that combat doesn't happen on every day of the month, that should complicate defender/attacker decision also. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		It's always the evil guys playing the Xiati shipset (why does the Xiati shipset always win?) trying to wipe out all other races who go first     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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