Asymmetrical Ship Sets

Fyron · #1 September 29th, 2002, 06:33 AM

There need to be more sets of asymmetrical ships. That I know of, there are 2, the Gorn Imperium and the Breen Galacticum. Are there any others out there? And why don't more people make asymmetric ships?

Edit: Actually... the Gorn may not be asymmetric, they might just be at a bad angle, and part of the other side's wings are covered on some of the ships.

[ September 29, 2002, 05:34: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

geoschmo · #2 September 29th, 2002, 02:14 PM

The reason you don't see more assymetrical shipsets is that almost all the shipsets available for SEIV were made by humans.

Humans are very visual and symetrical creatures. It is hard for us to look at an asymetrical craft and not think it's got a problem.

But I would like to see a few more myself.

Geoschmo

disabled · #3 September 29th, 2002, 02:31 PM

There are 5 or 6 such race styles that I've made and a one andrey has made. If I ever dig them up, I'll repost them.

DavidG · #4 September 29th, 2002, 02:58 PM

On a similar note I'd like to see more realy bizzare ships that look really 'alien' I think the best one I've seen so far is the Tylmai.

Taera · #5 September 29th, 2002, 05:50 PM

Well i've been working 2 months before i left on assymetric ships. Also im trying to find what it takes to create a realy *alien*, *bizzare* or whatever race.

If you want i can post my assymetric ships here.

And i have to state it here. Only assymetric ships do look good. Only assymetric ships do look alien.

*IMPORTANT FOR ALL ORGANIC SHIP ARTISTS*
Only assymetric organic ship could ever look realy living. A fact.

geoschmo · #6 September 29th, 2002, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taera:
*IMPORTANT FOR ALL ORGANIC SHIP ARTISTS*
Only assymetric organic ship could ever look realy living. A fact.

Well that's just a silly statement to be putting out there as a fact. It's certainly an opinion, and I do like asymetrical ship designs. But to state flatly that all living ships must be asymetrical is just as bad as someone stating that all ships should be symetrical. It's the variety that most of us appreciate.

Why would a living ship have to be asymetrical. Most living creatures that we know of are symetrical. Unless you thinkg that is some accident or uniqueness to life on earth. I would expect actually that most life in the universe takes symetrical forms. But that doesn't mean all life would. But it's all just a guess really. No ones guess is any better than any one elses.

Geoschmo

Taera · #7 September 29th, 2002, 06:03 PM

Ok, if anyone is REALY interested, here is the link:

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Taera · #8 September 29th, 2002, 06:06 PM

Geoschmo, well yes i apologize for my too final statement. But i must say that i've had some experience drawing organic things and always had the problem of them being too symmetric. Look, i even bought a book on drawing "characters" which can also mean "organics", and something like 3rd page was dedicated to the need for the "organics" to bee assymetric. Even human - a little smaller ear, bigger eye, longer hand.... if you think of it nothing we know is realy symmetric.

Well i must say that this is just my opinion, sorry for the final statement.

EDIT: And hmm.. theoretically all organic ships are products of gene enginering, and there is no need for a genetist to design his creations to be symmetric, rather than effective.

[ September 29, 2002, 17:07: Message edited by: Taera ]

geoschmo · #9 September 29th, 2002, 06:52 PM

Taera, I wasn't thinking on that small of a level. Yes you are correct very few if any humans or other organisms are truely and perfectly symetrical. There are always small imperfections. And for that metter interally we have many organs that are only one side or the other. But overall the tendancy of living things in our experience is towards, if not perfect symetry at least balance. Even plants whish are about the most asymetric lifeforms on our planet will tend to be close to symetrical on some axis, unless forced to be asymetrical by some outside influence.

As far as genetic engineering is concerned the question really isn't whther or not it is neccesary to be symetrical, but whether the designer would choose for it to be so. If the designer is from a species that evolved basically sypetrically as humans did, would they not feel more comfortable with that as we are? I don't know, but I tend to think they would.

You pictures are very cool by the way. I like them a lot.

Geoschmo

[ September 29, 2002, 17:53: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

Pax · #10 September 29th, 2002, 08:16 PM

Taera: oh ... very VERY nice pics. I want the Illea shipset, dammit! Gimme! Gimme!

Seriously, when that shipset is complete, I would KILL for a copy of it ...