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				December 12th, 2000, 07:58 PM
			
			
			
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				 What\'s your best carrier design? 
 Hi,Just got my copy yesterday and am planning on making a carrier group as soon as I can, just because I love the idea of having swarms of fighters to do my dirty work. What do people here use for their carrier design?
 
 I think (for a light carrier anyway) I'm going to go with a Bridge, Life support, Crew, 15 bays, ECM, probably 2-3 Engines (best tech available), 2 Point Defense. This is pretty standard and should leave me enough room for some additional components, any suggestions?
 
 Should I beef up the engine count to gain the additional supply? I plan on having a supply ship with the fleet.
 
 I don't plan on adding weapons since I don't want the carrier itself getting into combat, should I add a heavy mounted gun just in case?
 
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				December 12th, 2000, 08:10 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: What\'s your best carrier design? 
 if its going to be with a fleet, make sure you have enough engines on it not to slow the rest of the fleet down.  if you have a resupply ship with the fleet, i would not worry about extra supply space on the carrier.  and unless you are planning on playing tatical combat against a human I would not worry about point defense or too much armor either.  
 odds are you are going to give it a order set something like launch fighters and dont get hurt, it should retreat to the edge after it has launched its load.  that means the only time it will be attacked is after the rest of your fleet is already waxed, and the only thing extra defenses will do is buy it time in the hopes that 30 turns run out before it can be destroyed.
 
 of course, if you are going to use tactiacal combat, you might keep it up close to support other ships with its point defense, but you might as well use the space on fighters and have a dedicated point defense ship.
 
 also, you may want to consider only having enough fighter bays for 1/2 or 1/3 of your fighters and putting the rest into cargo containers.  it will slow down launch time, but increase your overall capacity.
 
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				December 12th, 2000, 08:38 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: What\'s your best carrier design? 
 Maybe a cloaking device, if you want to reduce the chance that you'll be attacked, and it's common on your other ships.  Likewise, ECM III will make it less of a sitting duck if it IS attacked, and only takes up 10kt.
 Definitely solar sail if you've got it.  Pretty much standard on all my warships / fleet support ships as soon as I can get one.
 
 Point defense will help if you run into an enemy carrier; if they have good propulsion tech, you won't be able to outrun the enemy fighters -- or, probably, their missiles, either.  Depends on what kind of support you're going to give the carrier; will you include repair ships, point-defense ships, missile ships (might work well, actually; have your fighters follow the missiles if doing tactical, so PD kills the (free) missiles), etc?
 
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				December 12th, 2000, 09:51 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: What\'s your best carrier design? 
 Personally, I find fleets with lots offighters to be really annoying. It slows
 down strategic combat quite a bit, and in
 any case the A.I. doesn't really appear to
 know how to use them correctly yet.
 
 I suggest you wait until a patch is released
 to improve fighter behavior.
 
 
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				December 12th, 2000, 10:20 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: What\'s your best carrier design? 
 Actually fighters no longer slow down my strategic combat (except for when I fire large Groups, say 100+ with at least 2 guns a piece). & the problem with the AI is two fold:
 1) Does not build enough fighters (Oh wow you ahve 16 fighters I am so scarred! Not...)
 
 2) Builds crappy fighter designs, partly from lack of reasearch into fighter weapons... I've never seen them build more than a light fighter with say 1 gun mount several engines & the required control systems... (fighters armed only with say a Missile Pod I is something I see alot)...
 
 If they were to do these things well they could take on much larger threats than they do, but as is they are under teched & under staffed compared to human opponents...
 
 Btw as for the original question I build combat carriers designed to aid the fighters from behind in combat, so for me a heavy carrier with 6000 cargo, 30 fighter bays (or 15 of my hangar bays), with 1500 shield pts., & a massive weapon mount (or two) are what I use...
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				December 12th, 2000, 10:58 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: What\'s your best carrier design? 
   quote:Originally posted by Shadow99:
 
 1) Does not build enough fighters (Oh wow you ahve 16 fighters I am so scarred! Not...)
 
 2) Builds crappy fighter designs, partly from lack of reasearch into fighter weapons... I've never seen them build more than a light fighter with say 1 gun mount several engines & the required control systems... (fighters armed only with say a Missile Pod I is something I see alot)...
 
 
 
Hang on, I'm just creating a Earthforce race that will use fighhters from start up, will build many of them (hopefully) and will use ECm, ECCM and shields even in fighters. Only thing left do to is making a sound research file so the AI gets to all the required tech. I tested it with high research, it is working so far.      
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