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	| Good idea it will make things more interesting |      | 3 | 11.11% |  
	| I like small fighters but keep at least capital ship disabling weapons |      | 3 | 11.11% |  
	| I like 20 gun fighters but no capital ship targeting |      | 0 | 0% |  
	| I want small fighters for fighter killing and big fighters for capital killing |      | 10 | 37.04% |  
	| Fighters should be able to target capital ships but have weak guns |      | 8 | 29.63% |  
	| WHAAAA are you mad keep it the way it is |      | 3 | 11.11% |  
	
 
 
	
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				October 23rd, 2004, 07:45 PM
			
			
			
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				 An important question to hardcore SEIV strategists 
 Alright as you know I am attempting to make a completely new mod for SEVI to make it a very new experience with many many new styles of play with each different race.
 Well this question is possibly one of the most important combat based questions I can pose.
 
 I was going to have it that most races standard "fighter craft" weapons can only target fighters, drones an satelites since if you think about it a small fighter wouldn't likely be able to breach a multi-million ton starships armor much less destroy it.
 
 Also most fighters would be very small to represent their fighter killing role instead of these huge 20 gun assault bombers we see now.
 Some races WILL have fighter weapons capable of crippling or even killing a cap ship, though these will mainly be Swarmers and Hunters.
 
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				 Re: An important question to hardcore SEIV strateg 
 Yaay! My idea got 33% of the vote!  
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				 Re: An important question to hardcore SEIV strateg 
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				October 23rd, 2004, 08:13 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: An important question to hardcore SEIV strateg 
 Yes but you didn't explain why you feel that every race have capital ship killing fighters  
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				 Re: An important question to hardcore SEIV strateg 
 Well, if fighters couldn't kill capital ships, they wouldn't be very useful.  They are already kind of weak in the stock game against ships armed with PDC's.  So if fighters couldn't damage big ships, you just send in your single PDC-armed warship to attack your enemy stack of fighters and destroy them all without being damaged yourself. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: An important question to hardcore SEIV strateg 
 Actually thing of it is for the general races I was going to remove fighter killing PD weaponry and have it only missile/mine specific. Basically their fighters would act as point defense.
 While races like the swarmers and hunters woul have capital ship hunter/killer fighters that would threaten your capital ships.
 
 But I guess what I could do is for the general races that use fighters have a fighter and seperate bomber tech area if that is possible?
 
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				 Re: An important question to hardcore SEIV strateg 
 I like the idea of something like:Ship-based PDCs are ineffective (1-5% accuracy) to nonexistent.
 Ships can perhaps use some small anti-fighter missiles, but as missiles they tend to all fire at one stack, making for a lot of overkill and not much stopping power.
 
 Fighters can target other fighters fine.
 Bomber designs could carry limited anti-ship missiles at the expense of engines and defenses.  Vulnerable to regular fighters.
 
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				 Re: An important question to hardcore SEIV strateg 
 
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		| Suicide Junkie said: Fighters can target other fighters fine.
 Bomber designs could carry limited anti-ship missiles at the expense of engines and defenses.  Vulnerable to regular fighters.
 
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				 Re: An important question to hardcore SEIV strateg 
 SJ, your quote reminds me of something right out of the MOO2 manual that had me confused for years before I figured it out: 
"Ships can bomb planets directly, but other ships only indirectly, via bombers."
 
OK, I was wondering, what KIND of ships can bomb planets directly, given that some other (unspecified and nonexistent as far as I could tell from playing the game) kind of ships can bomb planets only indirectly via bombers...  then after SO long I finally figured out that "other ships" was part of the OBJECT of the sentence, not the SUBJECT...  
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		| Ed Kolis said:"Ships can bomb planets directly, but other ships only indirectly, via bombers." 
 OK, I was wondering, what KIND of ships can bomb planets directly, given that some other (unspecified and nonexistent as far as I could tell from playing the game) kind of ships can bomb planets only indirectly via bombers...  then after SO long I finally figured out that "other ships" was part of the OBJECT of the sentence, not the SUBJECT...
   
 |  So; Ships can bomb planets... 
Fighters can bomb ships... 
But ships can't bomb other ships?
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