Balck Holes too soft

Aussie Gamer · #1 March 30th, 2001, 02:38 AM

I am having discussions with my other players in the games that we are playing and it is about the fact that Black hloes only draw in at 2.
I would like to see them do it at 6, thus making life very difficult for tech 1 type engines.

Any thought??

Oggy ben Doggy · #2 March 30th, 2001, 02:40 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Aussie Gamer:
I am having discussions with my other players in the games that we are playing and it is about the fact that Black hloes only draw in at 2.
I would like to see them do it at 6, thus making life very difficult for tech 1 type engines.

Any thought??

actually, they should draw in more, the closer you are. This would probably require a code change.

Dracus · #3 March 30th, 2001, 02:48 AM

The AI can not even barely handle 2,
But just for you, I have increased them to 6.
Load this file into the data file, overwrite the SystemTypes

The only thing I changed is the number of sectors a blackhole pulls a ship to the cneter per turn.
Enjoy

And remember, AI's will not be able to handle this. I think if you human control them for one turn, You can set up were they void blackhole systems. (this I have not tryed)

Suicide Junkie · #4 March 30th, 2001, 03:58 AM

Actually, they should not pull ships in at all!

Since even supergiant stars don't pull ships in, a black hole should not pull ships in.

If the earth was crushed into a black hole for some mysterious reason, all the satellites we have in orbit would stay in orbit for centuries.

Once you're in orbit, you stay in orbit. Since ships have stable positions in normal systems, they are clearly orbiting the star at the same rate as the planets.
If the ships do this in a black hole system, then they will not fall in, even if they have no engines.

Dracus · #5 March 30th, 2001, 04:44 AM

I have pulled my statment until I recieve a response from Mr. hawkings

[This message has been edited by Dracus (edited 30 March 2001).]

Lord Felix · #6 March 30th, 2001, 05:10 AM

Dracus bloviates:
If you don't have a planet (IE earth crushed) then the sats would be pulled in, because
then there would be no orbit. orbits are based on speed ver grav. That is why we have
to push our sats back up, because in time, grav overpowers them. All the planets are
slowly being pulled toward the sun. It will take billions of years but in time the earth
will crash into our sun. Take a science math course or read a steven Hawken book. It
is all explained there.

Lord Felix, a member of the American Academy for the Advancement of Science, responds:
Nope, that's all nonsense. Satellites would orbit an earth-mass blackhole EXACTLY the way they would orbit the Earth. In an idealized system including NOTHING but the Earth and the Moon in orbit, the orbit would remain unchanged forever. In reality, due to the slow attraction of the rest of the universe, the Moon is actually RECEDING from the Earth and it will NEVER fall in as you say! In the dinosaur age, the Moon was visibly larger in the sky, not smaller. Small human satellites slowly fall, and must be boosted up to maintain orbital altitude, due to the slowing effect of friction (they bump into millions of air molecules). Your post is remarkable for being incorrect in every single detail, including the spelling of Hawking's name! It's a bad idea to be arrogantly dismissive when all your facts are wrong!