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		I'm unable to fit the HMG platoon into any of the assigned vehicles (formations 509, 510, 511). I've got the same issue with MMG formations 67 and 503 when selecting BTR-82(A). 
Unit 872 with NSV should be named MT-LBVM, "V" is just for wide tracks. Source:  https://medium.com/@Monk_of_War/the-...d-63fe4fa13023
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		Will investigate. Those formations have been like that at least a decade....... Ahh.... I see now the teams were originally 3 men and are now 4....looks like 3-4 years ago but no time to dig further ATM 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
            
                  
				
                    
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		The full solution will have to wait for whenever we update the game again but if you do not PBEM and don't think you ever will you can easily fix this exactly the way I fixed it 
 
First off this little "problem" goes back to a change made in 2012 so obviously few people use those armoured HMG formations otherwise we would have heard about this sooner 
 
The armoured HMG formations are stand-alone's so they are not used as part of a larger formation so fixing is simple 
 
In the master OOB they now look like this...... 
 
509 HMG Sec /APC 
510 HMG Sec /BMP 
511 HMG Sec /Lt APC 
 
so they are "sections" not platoons and you create that by removing the template transport vehicle from the fourth slot and put it in the third slot leaving you with 2 HMG teams per vehicle instead of 3 then you change Plt to Sec for the formation name and the "problem" goes away 
 
Then change BTR-82's from 108 carry to 109 carry.....that *may* be incorrect to some but it's what works.....it's a game not reality and we cannot break up units like can be done in reality so sometimes we have to bend reality and that is what it takes to make MG Pl /APC work using the BTR-82's 
 
The other two name adjustments have been made as well 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		While researching the immediate post-war Soviet Airborne Units, I discovered the detailed conversions of the Tu-4 bomber into airborne transports. 
They developed the Tu-4D and associated "cabins" (giant drop tanks), and Factory no.23 converted 100 to 300 (sources differ) Tu-4 into this configuration starting 1955.
  
early test of a P-90 cockpit with ZIS-2 cannon
When equipped with two loaded cabins, each with either a SD-44 self propelled gun, or a ASU-57, the Tu-4D had a 800~ km (500 mile) radius of action.
 
Apparently the system was only in service for a very short period of time -- 1956 to about 1958 -- because at this point the turboprop powered An-8 and An-12 arrived with "roll off" cargo doors.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		It's interesting, but all things considered, I think I will give adding it to the OOB a pass 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Understandable, since there are so few free slots now, and Russia's notorious for adding new "improved" equipment into service at a rapid clip. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Great photo of soviet recruits training with RPG-7 late sixties/ early seventies 
  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		409 Igla-1 SAM - weapon #143 9M313 Igla-1 has the same accuracy 118 as later #132 9M39 Igla, while Igla-1 was a transitional simpler first version, so it should be somewhere between #131 9M36 Strela-3 (80) and Igla. 
412 Igla SAM, 770, 771 Igla-S SAM  - the photo is old Strela-2 - photo 45374 of Igla-1 or 13352 of Verba is better option.  
Or there is Igla:  https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1a/0f...a99bc0ed33.jpg
BTW, here is Verba with IFF 1L229V module  https://www.kbm.ru/local/images/kbm/...1469427260.jpg
351 Mi-6 - according to Russian sources, only part of helicopters were armed, but it was only one MG.
 
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