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				OT: Narf\'s Network and XP help thread.
	
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		We have a D-Link router, a WinXP, a Win98 and a mac. Any way of getting all of them, or at least the windows machines, talking to each other? 
 
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		What router?  If it has DHCP built in, just turn on the DHCP and set the computers up to use DHCP.  Then put the systems in the same work group, share the drives/folders/printers and enjoy.  The off brand system will be a little harder, but it will have Inet access with this set up. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Um...It's a D-Link with a Part Number(At least, I assume that's what P/N means) of CDI604. 
 
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		DHCP = Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol.   
Is this the one?
 http://www.dlink.com/products/?model=DI-604 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		That's what it looks like. 
 
DHCP is already enabled, we think; there's a whole field of numbers in that area. There's a release and renew button, but no enable button. We can get the internet, but the computers don't see each other, if that helps. 
 
My dad can't find any DHCP in the Win98 comp. 
 
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		I was having the same trouble...look back and find mine, on the XP should more or less do it on it's own, the 98 do you have "Network Places" should be EZ. DO NOT USE THE WIZARD! it F***ed me big time! 
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		Getting the Mac and Windows machines to talk to each other might be troublesome.  Windows would need the Appletalk protocol, but I didn't see it in the list of protocols for me to install.  I know Windows Server 2003 has it, but I didn't see it for XP. 
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		From my experience, those two platforms (Mac OS and Windows XP) cannot talk to each other directly (peer to peer) without some additional peer2peer software or a server in between. 
 
IOW, you can't connect them outa' the box; you need something in the middle added in there (server, 3rd party software, web server, ftp server, email, etc.)  In my experience, you're far better off setting them up to talk to each other using TCP/IP and forget about AppleTalk in peer to peer environments. 
 
As stated, if you had a 2003 server, you could use that as a middle-man but not all of us have all the goodies.  (I have one but that's beside the point.)  And if you must do peer2peer, you'll probably have better luck getting the Mac to talk Windows vs. the other way around... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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I was having the same trouble...look back and find mine, on the XP should more or less do it on it's own, the 98 do you have "Network Places" should be EZ. DO NOT USE THE WIZARD! it F***ed me big time! 
 
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		From memory, To set Win98 to use DHCP - go into Control Panel, Network, "TCP/IP for your Lan card" & you should be able to find it in there. 
All Windows computers will have to have the same "Workgroup" name, and will have to have "File & Print Sharing" installed & enabled (Found in Control Panel, Network too). 
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