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				April 10th, 2008, 05:01 AM
			
			
			
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				 Body Armour 
 I only ask this out of curiosity, but does the armour that some modern infantry wear, make enough of a difference to a soldiers chance of staying in the fight to be represented in the game? If it is a significant factor (and to be clear; I've no idea/opinion on if it is!) and it is in the game, how is it represented?
 
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				April 10th, 2008, 05:37 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Body Armour 
 No. Not in the game, not modelled. Not worthwhile in the game scale, same with AT gun shields.
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				April 10th, 2008, 05:51 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Body Armour 
 If you want you can adjust a bit the infantry toughness values in the game options menu.   I would guesss there might be a percentage of cases where body armor might turn an incapacitating wound into something manageable enough to stay in the fight but I have never researched the topic. Still between the military and the police some studies might be available if you are interested.
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				April 10th, 2008, 06:05 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Body Armour 
 For all intents and purposes military body armor is useless against anything but fragmentation weapons.  Any full jacketed military round would barely notice anything light enough for an infantryman to wear.That said, I seem to recall that a study done during WW II indicated that something like 70% of casualties we caused by fragmentation type weapons.
 
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				 Re: Body Armour 
 OTOH those studies often used just data from hospitals - most head shots etc. won't make it there... 
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		| Suhiir said: For all intents and purposes military body armor is useless against anything but fragmentation weapons.  Any full jacketed military round would barely notice anything light enough for an infantryman to wear.
 That said, I seem to recall that a study done during WW II indicated that something like 70% of casualties we caused by fragmentation type weapons.
 
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				 Re: Body Armour 
 Curiosity satisfied, thanks.And some very interesting points too!
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