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				 Flaming Arrows counters 
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				 Re: Flaming Arrows counters 
 Well, Rain of Stones comes to mind. Flaming arrows is useless if there aren't any archers. Mist/Storm/Darkness would also work, probably cancelling out the increased effectiveness of Flaming Arrows. Army of Lead renders the flaming arrows pretty much moot. That's all that comes to mind.
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				 Re: Flaming Arrows counters 
 Darkness and Storm work well too.
 Does Rain effect precision too?  I cant remember.  Solar Brilliance would work too - hehe.
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				May 15th, 2008, 06:31 PM
			
			
			
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		| MaxWilson said: ...Army of Lead...
 
 |  Army of gold works even better in this case, though you'll want someone to cast antimagic for the MR then.
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				 Re: Flaming Arrows counters 
 Bear in mind that Darkness also brings elite units closer to parity with chaff (great if you're Marignon with flagellants or something, terrible if you're Vanheim/Helheim) by halving the difference between attack/defense. And of course it makes you vulnerable to skelly spammers and other assorted undead. Vice versa, of course.    
(Does EA Pangea have access to Darkness?)
 
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				 Re: Flaming Arrows counters 
 EA Pangea doesn't have death mage, even though taking death path is absolutely necessary. I think there's a Pan hero who comes with death 2 though. 
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				 Re: Flaming Arrows counters 
 I've never hired an EA pangea Pan that came with death magic. You have to have a pretender with some death magic who can search out death sites and cast Revenant, and then empower a Revenant with nature. Sucks, but I haven't found a better way around it yet.
 Another decent counter to Flaming Arrows:
 
 -Longbowmen set to Fire Archers.
 Too bad they're so flippin' rare, tho.
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				 Re: Flaming Arrows counters 
 A few that come to mind are:
 Rain - puts the fires out, I think.
 Storm - 50% of arrows removed.
 Will of the Fates - 50% of arrows deal no damage
 Infantry with honking great shields - speaks for itself
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				 Re: Flaming Arrows counters 
 Fliers set to Attack Archers 
Thug armies - plenty of items grant fire resistance 
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or, uh... play as Abysia    
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				 Re: Flaming Arrows counters 
 Rain does not affect arrows, it just reduces heat effects, doubles Fire spell costs, and doubles flier fatigue. Interestingly, Acid Rain does none of these things.
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