Ritual of Rebirth on a Chayot

Diabl0658 · #1 January 22nd, 2010, 10:09 AM

During one of my multiplayer games I made discovery concerning chayots. If you ritual of rebirth one they get all their magic paths in one form, and become a level 8 priest! Is this supposed to happen?

FAJ · #2 January 22nd, 2010, 10:29 AM

It should be a level 8 priest in all its forms.

If ritual of rebirthed, it may just lose its special tags of Magic -4 and X-path +4. It has all 4 paths to begin with, and the different forms subtract 4 from all paths (including holy), while adding in the particular forms path.

So I guess it makes sense, game-mechanic wise. I don't know why they wouldnt just give each form 4 in their path instead of giving all 4 all the time and then removing them.

vfb · #3 January 22nd, 2010, 11:03 AM

Oh, you really need to make him your Prophet, so he gets H11. Any time you can turn it up to 11, it's gotta be good. I wonder if you'll hit yourself by accident if you try to cast Banishment.

chrispedersen · #4 January 22nd, 2010, 12:07 PM

I believe you can hit yourself, but I think it has the enemy only mask.

thejeff · #5 January 22nd, 2010, 12:14 PM

Does it? I think I've seen priests banishing their own undead while aiming for the enemy.

FAJ · #6 January 22nd, 2010, 12:19 PM

Wouldn't prophetizing him only turn him up to 9?

Not very metal

Sombre · #7 January 22nd, 2010, 12:23 PM

Doesn't have enemy only mask.

I don't think they had any choice but to go (+4 x -4 all) for each of the forms. A S4 guy who shapechanges into a D4 guy won't end up with just D4. You have to do it using boosts (which can be to specific paths) and an overall malus (which can only be overall iirc, specific ones don't work properly).

I would consider the use of this to be an exploit. I'm sure Foodstamp, K and others would consider it to be a balancing part of the game which if removed due to people whining, would diminish their enjoyment.

thejeff · #8 January 22nd, 2010, 12:27 PM

Vaguely related Chayot question: Is a Chayot vulnerable to Magic Duel in all forms? If so, what astral level is it treated as?

Sombre · #9 January 22nd, 2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by thejeff

Vaguely related Chayot question: Is a Chayot vulnerable to Magic Duel in all forms? If so, what astral level is it treated as?

Good question. I have not tested this, but am 99% confident he is immune unless he's in his astral form.

Obviously even if he wasn't immune, magic dueling him would just knock him over to the next form, so he'd still be hard as all getout to kill.

Sir_Dr_D · #10 January 22nd, 2010, 01:07 PM

What is a chayot? I am assuming this is a unique summon for one of the nations.