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				Holy Atmospheres, Batman!!!  aka stating the obvious
	
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Ok, I will start this thread because there have been several times where I suddenly realized something totally obvious that everyone else probably knows and I feel like a real bonehead for not realizing it earlier.  I have played SE III for a long time and upgraded to SE4G when Gold was released.  If not documented in the FAQ, or if you just have a funny story, post it here. 
 
I just realized 15 minutes ago that you can tell the atmosphere type of a planet by its color.  I know that everyone probably knew this, but I just realized it.  DOH!  No wonder I had been finding so frustrating to move alien population to the right breathing planet. 
 
I don't normally use neutrals, so I didn't pick this one up early either, but about 2 months ago, I suddenly realized that you can immediately tell if a race is a neutral by their "bland" flag.  After that ton of bricks hit me, I noticed that the same races always seem to be neutrals.  Can anyone confirm that the batch of neutral races are  always neutral?  or are they sometimes non-neutral? 
 
Of course, in the beginning, made all the rookie mistakes: no engines on a ship, not loading population on a colonizer, mothballing an entire fleet in space (including the spaceyard ship) so it got stranded, etc, etc... 
 
Anyone else care to state the obvious that they didn't notice? 
 
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		Neutrals are in Pictures\RaceNeutral 
 
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I just realized 15 minutes ago that you can tell the atmosphere type of a planet by its color.  I know that everyone probably knew this, but I just realized it.  DOH!  No wonder I had been finding so frustrating to move alien population to the right breathing planet. 
 
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 Hmm... not always, for example there's a CO2 planet that has so much blue in its green I tend to mistake it for oxygen.  The map editor will show you all the pictures under on heading. 
 
Someone made a mod a long time ago that really changed pictures.  I remember some airless moons were reddish brown. 
  
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		Yeah, but those Carbon planets have vastly different patterns than the Oxygen planets, and it is fairly easy to tell them apart once you've played for a while. 
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		Another good example of the woes of colorblindness.  I just checked this in my current game, and the first two carbon dioxide planets look completly different to me.     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Play se4 a lot, and you'll memorize whatever they look like to you, and be able to tell at a glance what the planets are.     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		I guess that is my problem... 
I haven't played SE4 a lot!       
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 Even after not playing for long periods of time.  I don't play at school, and when I came home for winter break, I had (almost) no problem.  There are two tiny planets that I mix up sometimes, the Carbon Dioxide and Hydrogen tinies that have rings.  CO2 is a tan color, and H2 is a reddish-brown.  Usually if I give it more than a cursory glance, I can tell, but just scanning through systems, sometimes it fails to register. 
 
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		I always mix up the two nearly-identical tiny planets with the squigglies all over them - one's hydrogen and one's CO2 I think... then there's the medium CO2 rock planet that looks like a gas giant, and the fact that some CO2 planets are green and some are brown... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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