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				 (OT) Games That Have Dissapointed You 
 Have you ever bought a game expecting one thing but getting something else?  It is happening more often now as the presure to produce crap instead of quality has heighten to an all time frenzy.
 Thus far my list is a short one, but here it goes.
 
 (No rankings, just titles as I recall them.)
 
 1. MOO 3  - They flat out lied.
 2. Tribes 2 - Buggy as hell when released
 3. BOTF - Buggy as hell when released
 4. Empire Earth - AI to aggressive
 5. Dugeon Siege - Hated the controls
 6. Star Fleet Command - Too complicated
 7. SOF II - Poorly desighned game.
 8. Unreal II - Just plain horrible game
 9. Quake III - Not at all fun
 10. Civ 3 - What, no multi player?  J/k  Game sucked.
 
 Games I liked right out of the box.
 
 1. SE IV - Set the Standard
 2. SimCity 4 - Delived what it said it would
 3. SimCity 3 - Unlimited (Fun)
 4. SimCity 2 - Fun
 5. Civ 2 - Liked it a lot
 6. StarCraft - Many of hour playing
 7. Diablo - Can any one say BattleNet?
 8. Diablo II - Like crack cocane
 9. Deus Ex - By far one of the best FPS
 10 Dark Forces - This game rocked!
 11. Tribes - By Far the Best Game ever!
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				February 28th, 2003, 11:22 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: (OT) Games That Have Dissapointed You 
 Dont know about bad games, I have been quite lucky in that regard (and dont buy many games anyhow) but games I have loved straight out of the box are as follows
 1 Age of Empires/Age of Kings
 2 Starfleet Command (easy to control with a bit of practice)
 3 Mediaval - Total War
 4 Dark Forces
 5 Whacky Races (Morris the Moose is a diva)
 6 Cuthroats
 7 Any Tomb Raider game
 
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				February 28th, 2003, 12:50 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: (OT) Games That Have Dissapointed You 
 The greatest disapointment I had was with M.A.X.2 (Mechanized Assault and eXploration). The original MAX1 is in my top 3 of best games ever, it's a relatively unknown turnbased command and conquer clone with lots of strategic aspects. (If you haven't tried it, do)I could rant here for an hour about MAX2 and what's wrong with it but I won't (do a search on google if your interested in that).. It's a sad thing that so many sequels to great titles get rushed out of the door and end up like big dissapointments.
 
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				 Re: (OT) Games That Have Dissapointed You 
 That's an easy one: Metal Gear: Solid.
 It should have been nameed - Metal Gear: A lame movie with brief periods of gameplay in between.
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				 Re: (OT) Games That Have Dissapointed You 
 Bad Games that I didn't like:-Deadlock
 -Seven Kingdoms 2
 
 Good games that I didn't like:
 -Pharaoh (I love Caesar III)
 -Age of Kings (my first RTS)
 -Medieval {that awful strategy map)
 -Call to Power
 
 Games I like:
 -SE4
 -Civ3  (my own mod, with recruiting units from the actual population and only historicly neighbouring tribes)
 -Shogun
 -Lords of the Realm II (my first game, back in '96)
 -Strategy Command
 
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 M.A.X.1 was a an awesome game for the first 100 turns or so. After that it, it was worse than MAX2 because it would frequently crash. MAX2 was released unfinished. IMHO, that is the same story with MOO3. I think they made some design decisions that resulted in a game that was even more unplayable than the current game. But they knew that if they released at least something that they could make some money off the name.
 Even with the mid-to-late-game bugs and crashes in MAX1, I still load it up at least once a year and play around with it. There is and probably never will be a game that compares to it in terms of building a base with radar, anti-air defense, turrets, etc.
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				 Re: (OT) Games That Have Dissapointed You 
 bad gamesMOO3 (as already anticipated)
 Max II
 BOTF
 CTP I (without patches)
 Age of Wonders II
 Steel Panters III
 Pax Imperium (macintosh)
 any realtime "strategy" game I came across in my long gaming career
 
 good games
 MAX
 SE3 and SE4
 MOO2
 MOO
 MOM
 Age of Wonders I
 Warlords I-III
 RFTS (the original not the sequel)
 CTP II
 Panzer Campaign Series (HPS)
 Steel Panters I-II
 Westfront from Talongames
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				 Re: (OT) Games That Have Dissapointed You 
 bad game :warcraft3
 every single RTS except Total Annihilation & warlord2
 diablo 1234etc.....(I hate the conceipt)
 neverwinter night
 
 good games
 SE4
 Steel panther WAW
 TA + expansions
 fallout 1 & 2
 warlord2
 warcraft2
 operational art of war 2
 planetscape torment (best RPG storyline ever)
 
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	I really don't get why so many people seem to hate this excellent game.  They seem to treat it as though the developers personally insulted them when they made a sequel.Quote: 
	
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	Sorry I didnt like it. I think the main reason is that it has no movement grid(hexes) in strategic and tactical combat. (AoW I did have this) Therefore its difficult to calculate unit movement several turns in advance. And a second reason is that it has not really much flair for me. (no naming terrain or cities etc.) I have other problems with the game (like unbalanced spells etc.) but the above are the major ones.Quote: 
	
		| Age of Wonders II 
 I really don't get why so many people seem to hate this excellent game. They seem to treat it as though the developers personally insulted them when they made a sequel.
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