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		By INQUIRER staff: Wednesday 13 August 2003, 16:51 
KASPERSKY LABS claimed this afternoon that there's already a new Version of the BLaster/Lovesan worm on the loose.  
And it says that's likely to mean a repeat of the outbreak we've seen during this week. The new variety of Lovesan exploits the same vulnerability.  
Kaspersky says that the number of infected systems is around the 300,000 mark, and the new variety may double this number.  
"In the worst case, the world community can face a global Internet slow down and regional disruption... to the World Wide Web," said Eugene Kaspersky, head of the labs.  
The new variety uses the name TEEKIDS.EXE instead of MSBLAST.EXE, different code compression, and different signatures in the body of the worm. µ 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		I can tolerate a lot of things that annoy me, but these stupid kids who create this stupid viruses and worms really irk me!  What the heck are they trying to prove anyways?  I think they should use their skills for something useful...! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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I can tolerate a lot of things that annoy me, but these stupid kids who create this stupid viruses and worms really irk me!  What the heck are they trying to prove anyways?  I think they should use their skills for something useful...!
			
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 The problem is the perception of the peole doing it is that it's not a big deal, merely a nuisance. They think of it as a challange, or perhaps a way to get noticed and get a job in IT security or something like that. Even if they catch them the penalties are minor, since the damage done to anyone particular person is typically not that serious. But we need to change our view of it as a culture, and nothing does that better then the attacks themselves. 
 
I would support a very light sentance for anyone writing or distributing a virus. Say maybe one hour in jail, for every person affected!         
 
The first time one of these pinheads gets convicted of 12 million counts of malicious tampering sentanced to 12 million consecutive one hour prison terms the rest of them might think twice about doing it themselves.       
 
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I can tolerate a lot of things that annoy me, but these stupid kids who create this stupid viruses and worms really irk me!  What the heck are they trying to prove anyways?  I think they should use their skills for something useful...! 
			
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 The problem is the perception of the peole doing it is that it's not a big deal, merely a nuisance. They think of it as a challange, or perhaps a way to get noticed and get a job in IT security or something like that. Even if they catch them the penalties are minor, since the damage done to anyone particular person is typically not that serious. But we need to change our view of it as a culture, and nothing does that better then the attacks themselves. 
 
I would support a very light sentance for anyone writing or distributing a virus. Say maybe one hour in jail, for every person affected!           
 
The first time one of these pinheads gets convicted of 12 million counts of malicious tampering sentanced to 12 million consecutive one hour prison terms the rest of them might think twice about doing it themselves.         
 
Geoschmo I think 1 minute would be OK as well.... 
 
12,000,000 / 60 = 200,000 Hours 
200,000 / 24 = 8333.3333...  Days 
8333.333 / 365 = 22.83 Years 
 
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		I spent Tuesday and part of Wednesday dealing with 120 very frustrated Users (and / or their systems).  When I think of the productivity loss and high stress due to this BLasted BLaster I have three reactions: 
1)	Why did our Network people put off installing this patch? 
2)	I am glad I am not the one who made that call, (to not install the patch) 
3)	This guy single handedly set back medical research around the world by one full day, (we do cancer research).   What other quality of life improvement did he interfere with?  What punishment is appropriate for that alone? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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