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		Does anyone know how to correctly set a race starting point if their are 2 planets in the same sector? 
 
Ie I've got the Earth and the Moon.  My Race keeps starting on the Moon and the name Moon shows up when the planet names are on. 
 
Edit:  The name Moon shows up but the picture of the Earth not the moon is what u see??? 
  
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		Can't help much there.  The editor is REALLY lacking IMHO and I hate using it for much of anything.  SOMEONE could really re-write that thing and make it SO useful.  I remember creating DOOM II levels with amateur-supplied "editors" that were easier to use than this professionally-supplied editor.  They should make more use of wizards for certain things...especially warp hole creation and linking.  Also, it seems the map is even displayed 90 degrees off what it appears like in the game.  That sucks, too. 
 
The editor for "that other game" that I can't remember (that Gryphin plays a lot) was MUCH easier to use.  You know, the game with the tanks, infantry, transports, planes, bombers, etc...I forget the name now, but it was SOOOO easy to make a map for it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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SOMEONE could really re-write that thing and make it SO useful
			
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 The problem here is that the map files are encrypted. 
 
Things the map editor needs: 
  - command to add a system by slecting its type (ie Standard would come complete with planets (or whatever else is called for in the txt file) 
  - add warp points by click on two system 
  - in the system window allow planets etc to be draged to new location. 
  - command to add random planet. (with random values) 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		that would be nice...  send him an email....  
 
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		... and some way to control which name displays, and which planet image displays, when you have a planet and moons in the same sector. I always seem to get one of the moon images displayed along with the name of the primary planet, or else I can get the planet image but it the name that shows will be A or B or whatever, the name of one of the moons. 
 
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 The problem here is that the map files are encrypted. 
 
Things the map editor needs: 
  - add warp points by click on two system 
  - in the system window allow planets etc to be draged to new location. 
  - command to add random planet. (with random values) Those three are great suggestions.  Like, clicking on a link in the "galaxy" view and having the two systems that it connected pop up (and then allowing one to drag the hole in each sytstem to where one wanted and change the attributes of either hole).  Notice, DRAGGING is one of the main "goodies" it should have. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		I think you have to add the moons and the planet in the correct order... try deleting them and adding them in the opposite order you did the first time. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Yup. I've seen this too. The order of placement is very important. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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I think you have to add the moons and the planet in the correct order... try deleting them and adding them in the opposite order you did the first time.
			
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 Seems to work thanks.  could have sworn I tried that before but I guess I didn't delete both planets first. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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