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				Space Empires will run in a functional window (sort of)
	
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		With the addition of a little software, SE4 will run in an environment where it can co-exist with the local desktop       
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		i definitly need that programm. where can i get it, and does it crash the game ? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Is it yet another virtual machine? The screenshot is too small to read the title of the window      
Edit: with help of magnifying glass I was able to read the title: "Microsoft Virtual PC 2004". Is it shareware or freeware? Though it would be fondly to expect freeware from MS    
 
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		Well, to be completely honest about it, the game will run on a virtual OS that runs in a functional window. 
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It’s XP pro running over Windows 2K with Microsoft Virtual PC.  The app lets you build a virtual machine complete with apps and OS.  It is fully functional, and runs beside the host OS.  In this case, I am logged into the domain with both OS’s at the same time, and on the same NIC.
 
The game seems to run fine, but there is a limit to the amount of "game testing" I can get away with here at work.  Being in a cubicle limits my activities quite a lot      
This is a 1024/768 window running on a 1280/1024 desktop
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And it seems to drive well, even though this system is very long in the tooth.  With the long weekend coming up, I prolly have time to test it out on one of my systems at home.  I have XP, 98se and 95 on this box, and it will load any two of the three virtual OS’s at the same time.  It runs out of ram before the third one loads.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		how much time does it take to set it up for an experienced pc user until you can click once and start the game and run a dvd movie at the same time ? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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 Depends on how much horse power your PC has.  On this system it took 5min to set up VirtPC, an hour to load XP and 5 min to load SE4 w/patch 
 
It takes about 1min to execute Virt/XP and a few seconds start SE4 after that. 
  
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I have used MS Virtual PC extensively to construct individual training environments. 
 
I really like the functionality, but note that is is a huge memory hog.  The "window" is actually an emulated session that heavily taxes the resources of the host machine.   
 
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I have used MS Virtual PC extensively to construct individual training environments. 
 
I really like the functionality, but note that is is a huge memory hog.  The "window" is actually an emulated session that heavily taxes the resources of the host machine.   
 
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 I have this XP set up running on 128megs.  VirtPC uses about 14megs by itself.  It does put quite a load on the system, but this old 733 run well with it. 
 
edit:  128megs is amount reserved for the virtXP OS.  each OS you install has a pre set amount of memory that it takes over on loading.  I have 98 setup with 64megs and 95 has 32megs. 
  
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		OK, I did 200 turns on it Last night and loaded several saved games from one of my other systems with no errors.  So I would say it was ready for prime time.  All you need is Virtual PC and a copy of an OS to load on it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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