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				 OT-RL treaties and Ranks 
 I have had in my mind to post this thread for the Last week or so. How do others see the present RL treaties at the moment?, and also what rank would you place countries?.The US is clearly ranked 1st. It has 2 major allies in its latest war. The UK which would be about 3rd or 4th, with which it has a Partnership. I was thinking my empire, Australia (ranked 20th, if that, out of 120 "players"), has a Military alliance with the US. This may be changing to a Partnership with an increased trade treaty. There are a number of other allies I don't know much about. Spain ,who's player quit after an event and whose new player left the war, and Poland and Japan.
 I apologise if this is being covered in other current threads. Instead of getting angry at peoples views on real life issues, I avoid certain threads where opinions might annoy me.
 
 Edit: just realised the event in Spain wasn't an event, more an intelligence attack.
 
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				June 5th, 2004, 09:10 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: OT-RL treaties and Ranks 
 This might be a good discussion for the Shrapnel General Forum.   
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				 Re: OT-RL treaties and Ranks 
 Well If you think so. Really I have no wish to discuss reality though. I just thought it would be whimsical to compare the real world as a SE4 game and decide which position and treaties countries have. Were it to be in a general forum (and I only read the SE4 forum) and If people want to get into an indepth discussion of world politics then I'd rather not get involved. Too much opposing politics criticising each other. 
Edit: on second thoughts I suppose if more people are interested the better. I just have a fear of things going downhill when the political opposition starts calling certain governments fascist lackeys of the right wing.     [ June 05, 2004, 10:30: Message edited by: Randallw ] |  
	
		
	
	
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 If you were going by score, the US would have already triggered mega-evil status and would be a threat to the other sentient races.    |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: OT-RL treaties and Ranks 
    . Quite right. I thought Evil Empire was when you owned most of the map. Is it 300% of 2nd or something?.
 
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				 Re: OT-RL treaties and Ranks 
 How many in the general forum would really understand what has already been posted, though?
 MEE?
 The important distiction between Military Alliance and Partnership?
 Player quitting?
 
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 Thats why I was worried by Atrocities suggestion. I couldn't see why people outside the game would, or could, compare SE4 to real life. I jumped to the conclusion he was thinking of the political environment. I have been thinking even people outside the game could do something like discuss what "Rank" countries are. |  
	
		
	
	
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 I guess we (New Zealand) would be partnership with you ausys, maybe T&R or military with ameraca hard to tell with our silly anti nuklear policy...
 I dont realy keep up to date with RL treatys, politics and stuff.
 
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 I thought Kiwi Land pulled out of ANZUS 10 years ago, so you would have no military alliance with the US. I think there might be a treaty between us though. The problem is also that (I think) New Zealand has about 2 patrol boats as a navy, and you scrapped all your fighters so you have practically no air force. I used to be worried that Australia was at risk from Indonesia, but have learnt they might have 10 times the troops but they wouldn't stand a chance as our airforce is by far superior to any potential threat. Plus of course at the first sign of trouble we would go crying to the US to save us       . |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: OT-RL treaties and Ranks 
 phhht no our navy is a bit better than that, infact our navy has newer aircraft (hellys) than our practicaly nonexsistant airforce...
 stupid govit, throwing away our skyhawks...
 they might have been old - but hell, they were the BEST skyhawks out there with all the upgrades we did to them.
 
 still, our SAS is meant to be one of the best isint it?
 
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