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		I have a couple of questions regarding life draining effects (such as the wraith sword). 
 
Does their health draining effect work whilst wielded by undead or inanimate creatures? Does it work when wielded against such creatures? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		I don't know, honestly. Hopefully someone else will. It should because undead creatures such as vampire queens have natural lifedrain, so there's no good reason why an item couldn't grant such an ability. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		...anybody that can -wield- a life-draining weapon or cast Life Drain will receive the (limited) benefits. 
 
However, if you smack something inanimate, you won't be healed or reinvigorated by it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		I ran four tests and here are the results: 
 
1. Wraith Lord (undead, not lifeless) with wraith sword 
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wights (undead, not lifeless)=lifedrain worked 
 
2. Wraith Lord (undead, not lifeless) with wraith sword 
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longdead (undead, lifeless)=lifedrain failed 
 
3. Mound King (undead, lifeless) with wraith sword 
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longdead (undead, lifeless)=lifedrain failed 
 
4. Mound King (undead, lifeless) with wraith sword 
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wights (undead, not lifeless)=lifedrain worked 
 
In conclusion, it appears that whether or not the attacked unit is lifeless, seems to be the deciding factor. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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...anybody that can -wield- a life-draining weapon or cast Life Drain will receive the (limited) benefits. 
 
However, if you smack something inanimate, you won't be healed or reinvigorated by it.  
			
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		It is said that only the first five damage is working as life drain. Will that give 2 or 3 health back?  
 
Lifedrain seems like a slow way to get health back but great to remove fatigue. 10 fatigue back for each hit sounds like a great deal. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Another, more subjective question: are wraith swords worth making after their double-nerf (limit of 5 drained, 25 gems to forge)? If so, what kind of fighter would you equip with one? Would it work well on, say, a golem? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		I don't think I'd ever make one. Even the athame (one handed life draining dagger, blood item) is kind of iffy. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Whats the nerf on lifedrain? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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