Ship and fleet experience functional?

[Q]

I tried to increase the effect of ship and fleet experience and went up to a maximum of 50% offense and defense bonus each. I tested a maximum trained fleet/ship (should give 100% bonus combined) against an untrained ship (both with DUC, same combat sensor, ecm) and found no difference in the hit chance (real combat, no simulator, SEV V 1.44).
Anybody seen ship and fleet experience really have an effect??

[Suicide Junkie]

Experience has no maximum in SE5, and it is not percentage based.
You seem to be mixing SE4/5 in that post...

Check out ShipExperience.txt to see what the effects should be.

[Q]

I am talking about SE V 1.44
Experience points have no maximum, that is true.
However the combat bonus that is generated by the experience level has a maximum as stated in the shipexperience.txt file and this is in %. And this bonus seems not to function.

[Suicide Junkie]

Ah, I see.
What ability are you using?

[Q]

Combat To Hit Offense
Combat To Hit Defense

but I tried also

Combat Morale

[Q]

I probably found the problem: The combat to hit defense/offense ability uses a group ID (amount 2), which decides if two values of the same ability stack or just the higher value is used. If the ship already has a combat sensor/ecm then the bonus gained by the ship/fleet experience will have no effect.
The solution: give the ship experience bonus the value 6 as amount 2 for the bonus and for the fleet bonus the value 7. Then they stack with each other and master computer/ecm/combat sensor/stealth and scattering armor.

At least that is what I found so far. Any confirmation would however be appreciated.

[Captain Kwok]

That seems the likely fix. It was the same "bug" with vehicle sizes and bonuses before.

[Randallw]

So is this neural combat thing I keep finding any use?

[Kamog]

Sounds like ship training facilities are useless? I guess Holy war totems aren't helpful either?

[BlueTemplar]

Looks like it will be fixed in the next public patch...