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				Modding the Gold Demo
	
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Does anyone know if it is possible to mod the SEIV Gold Demo?  I keep getting stymied. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Re: Modding the Gold Demo
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		That's the point. It's a DEMO. If you want to be able to mod it to suit your preferences then buy the full game.     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		I am. Its on order but release has been delayed for another month, and I'm chomping at the bit to try out some ideas.     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Try em out on anywyas.  If you can mod the demo, which I doubt, then mod it.       If not, then at least you tried.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Re: Modding the Gold Demo
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		As I recall from my SE4 demo days before I took the plunge       , it was possible to mod even the most recalcitrant file. I know some files were up for grabs for modding, while some would prevent the game from loading. I then tried keeping the file size the same by adding to or deleting from parts of a component; that seemed to do the trick. My favorite area to edit was component descriptions. I just kept track of what I changed and added or deleted accordingly.        I'm not sure if this would work for wholesale modding, though; there may be a check for number of components, etc, or even a spot check to match positions N through N+10 of the file with a hard-coded value from the original. Can't hurt to try, though.       
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				Re: Modding the Gold Demo
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		The original demo was something like: 
Text values must add up to the same length 
Number values must add up to the same total 
# of components must add up to a fixed total 
# of abilities must add up to a fixed total 
 
You can probably move some points from cost to size to hitpoints to ability amount, but thats about it. 
 
Just mod SE4 classic if you've got it, then tweak your mod for gold when it arrives. 
 
Hmmm... 
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		"Hmmm... 
Perhaps I should write a Classic-To-Gold Mod Patcher?"
 
Yes! Veryvery useful. People would still have to go in and tweak, but certainly better than nothing.     
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				Re: Modding the Gold Demo
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		After getting some ideas from y'all I managed to do some limited mods.  You can shift values in the same class (ie. take 100 kt from battle stations and place it on cruisers).  There is one problem though,  the AI won't use any craft over normal pre-set limits (ie. Won't use 800 kt cruisers). 
 
While this doesn't equal full modding it is (almost) enough to tide me over till the full Version finally gets released. 
 
Thanks for the helpful suggestions. 
 
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