| 
 | 
     
    
    
    
     
    
    
    
 
    
    
 
    
     
    
    
    
     
    
    
    
     
    
    
    
 
    
    
 
    
    
 | 
       | 
      
 
 
	
		  | 
	
	 | 
 
 
		
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				August 15th, 2007, 09:54 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				First Lieutenant 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Mar 2004 
					Location: Seattle 
					
					
						Posts: 771
					 
					 
	Thanks: 0 
	
		
			
				Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				How do you spend your Gems in the early-mid game?
	
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Here is the list of things that I commonly use my gems for. I think ( and I could be wrong ) that most of these are cost effective. 
 
Fire: Lightless Lanters, fire brands, charcoal shields, shields of gleaming gold, shadow brand, gems for flaming arrows 
 
Air: Not much, maybe staff of storms. I usually just wait until conj-8 for the queens, which is a long time to wait.  
 
Water: Frost Brands, Boots of quickness, Swords of quickness, Jade armor, Clams ( maybe ) 
 
Earth: Earth boots, Troll courts, fire brands, shadow brands, hammers 
 
Astral: Luck pendants, AMA, starshine skull caps, maybe angels 
 
Nature: Vine Ogres, Rings of regen, reinvig items, Eye shields, globals like GoH.  
 
Death: Banelords, Wrath Swords, shadow brand, maybe wrathlords, maybe a lich or two, banefire archers can be very deadly. 
 
Blood: lots-o-summons. Devils, Death Knights, Ice Devils, Storm Demons, Archies, Hell swords, blood stones, just great stuff.  
 
What I notice is that, with the exception of blood and to a lesser extent death, there are not a lot of summons on the list. It seems that items dominate the list.  
 
So what do you guys spend gems on? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
			
			
			
			
				 
			
			
			
			
            
			
			
				
			
			
			
		 
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				August 15th, 2007, 10:48 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				Second Lieutenant 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Dec 2005 
					Location: Everywhere 
					
					
						Posts: 495
					 
					 
	Thanks: 0 
	
		
			
				Thanked 13 Times in 1 Post
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: How do you spend your Gems in the early-mid game?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Aren't shadow brands death/earth? 
Pretty similar, but of course some nationals make a pretty huger difference. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				Unus vocis. Unus manus. Unus Universitas. Unus Deus. Is est meus fatum praeeo pro totus populus.  
Ut est meus fortuna. 
 
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				August 15th, 2007, 11:02 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				Second Lieutenant 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Oct 2006 
					Location: Winnipeg, Canada 
					
					
						Posts: 566
					 
					 
	Thanks: 8 
	
		
			
				Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: How do you spend your Gems in the early-mid game?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		In addition to the ones that you put down 
 
Air: mist,  storm, wind guide, arrow fend.   (i feel very defensless without air.) 
 
Astral: eye of the void 
 
fire/water:  rune smashers 
 
earth: the greatest anti super combatant weapon - Gate Cleaver 
 
nature:  swarm can come in handy at times. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				August 16th, 2007, 01:25 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				Second Lieutenant 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Dec 2005 
					Location: Everywhere 
					
					
						Posts: 495
					 
					 
	Thanks: 0 
	
		
			
				Thanked 13 Times in 1 Post
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: How do you spend your Gems in the early-mid game?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Well, I just found a few more: 
All paths: Site Searches 
Seeking Arrows, Teleports, Black Servants, mid game sevral mass-type nature spells. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				Unus vocis. Unus manus. Unus Universitas. Unus Deus. Is est meus fatum praeeo pro totus populus.  
Ut est meus fortuna. 
 
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				August 16th, 2007, 02:43 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				General 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: May 2004 
					Location: Seattle, WA 
					
					
						Posts: 3,011
					 
					 
	Thanks: 0 
	
		
			
				Thanked 45 Times in 35 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: How do you spend your Gems in the early-mid game?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		What about gem generator spells?  Mother Oak at the very least.  I suppose the others could be considered late-game only. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				August 16th, 2007, 03:26 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				Major General 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Sep 2006 
					
					
					
						Posts: 2,198
					 
					 
	Thanks: 90 
	
		
			
				Thanked 32 Times in 22 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: How do you spend your Gems in the early-mid game?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		I agree with the gem spending choices so far, some additional ones:- 
 
Air:  Cloud Trapze, Fog Warriors, Phantasmal Army, Air Elementals (usually via Living Clouds), the fantastic air magic air bows, eye of aiming, call of winds(sieging, fast gem/magic item carriers), great eagles, watchers, hurricane, shimmering fields. 
 
Astral:  Ring of sorcery, wizardary. 
 
Nature:  Gift of reason. 
 
Earth:  Gargoyle. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				August 16th, 2007, 03:47 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				Major General 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Feb 2004 
					Location: Houston, Texas 
					
					
						Posts: 2,435
					 
					 
	Thanks: 57 
	
		
			
				Thanked 662 Times in 142 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: How do you spend your Gems in the early-mid ga
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Blood: Hoard from Hell, Rain of Toads - honestly I think these are my two favorite blood spells.  Of course there are lots of uses for blood slaves... 
 
Earth: Weapons of Sharpness - can be cast by an e2 guy, summon earth power plus a few gems (bonus - he can follow that up with strength of giants and legion of steel) 
 
Astral: Power of the spheres (*great* with communion + light of the northern star).  Nobody mentioned Mind Hunts? 
 
Death: Another one nobody mentioned that I spend a lot of gems on - skull mentors!  Shadow blast is great mid game. 
 
Nature: amulet of barkskin - surprisingly effective for thugs in combination with decent armor given the price and research level. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				 My guides to Mictlan, MA Atlantis, Eriu, Sauromatia, Marverni, HINNOM, LA Atlantis, Bandar, MA Ulm, Machaka, Helheim, Niefleheim, EA Caelum, MA Oceana, EA Ulm, EA Arco, MA Argatha, LA Pangaea, MA T'ien Ch'i, MA Abysia, EA Atlantis, EA Pangaea, Shinuyama, Communions, Vampires, and Thugs
Baalz good player pledge
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				August 16th, 2007, 10:26 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				First Lieutenant 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: May 2007 
					Location: Reading, PA 
					
					
						Posts: 724
					 
					 
	Thanks: 93 
	
		
			
				Thanked 37 Times in 27 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: How do you spend your Gems in the early-mid ga
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		This one is a big one for me:  Air- bows for commanders, scripted to fire rear. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				Men do not quit playing because they grow old; they grow old because they quit playing.  
Oliver Wendell Holmes 
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				August 18th, 2007, 10:03 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				Lieutenant General 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Feb 2007 
					Location: New Orleans 
					
					
						Posts: 2,741
					 
					 
	Thanks: 21 
	
		
			
				Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: How do you spend your Gems in the early-mid ga
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		 In the 3 mp games I am playing: 
 
Alpaca-Pangaea-1st spell i put up-mother oak 
 
Epic Heroes-Shinuyama-1st spell i put up-Well of Misery 
 
Big Game-MA Ctis-ruthlessly attacked the whole game so 
 
Death-bane lords, gems for shadow blast 
 
Water-boots quickness, frost brand, bottles of water, rime hauberk 
 
Nature-boots, ring regen, amulets 
 
Astral-spell focus, luck pendants, s1 boosters, 
 
fire n/a 
 
Earth n/a 
 
air n/a 
 
  The spell I would most like to get up-haunted forest 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				"War is an art and as such is not susceptible of explanation by fixed formula."  
- General George Patton Jr. 
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				August 19th, 2007, 02:40 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				First Lieutenant 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: May 2007 
					
					
					
						Posts: 674
					 
					 
	Thanks: 7 
	
		
			
				Thanked 15 Times in 10 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: How do you spend your Gems in the early-mid ga
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		I recently started spamming spells like blight, hurricane, and the locust thing, and I love it.  love love love it.  Hit somebodies capital with all three and you can cost them something like 500-1000 gold in a turn. 
 
So, earth, air, and nature. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
 
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
	| Thread Tools | 
	
 
	| 
	
	
	
	 | 
	
 
	| Display Modes | 
	
 
	
	
	
	
		  Linear Mode 
		
		
	 
	
	 | 
	
	
 
 
	
		
	
		 
		Posting Rules
	 | 
 
	
		
		You may not post new threads 
		You may not post replies 
		You may not post attachments 
		You may not edit your posts 
		 
		
		
		
		
		HTML code is On 
		 
		
	  | 
 
 
	 | 
	
		
	 | 
 
 
     |  
 |