| 
 | 
     
    
    
    
     
    
    
    
 
    
    
 
    
     
    
    
    
     
    
    
    
     
    
    
    
 
    
    
 
    
    
 | 
       | 
      
 
 
	
		  | 
	
	 | 
 
 
		
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				March 20th, 2008, 06:50 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				Major General 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Sep 2007 
					Location: Scotland 
					
					
						Posts: 2,066
					 
					 
	Thanks: 109 
	
		
			
				Thanked 162 Times in 118 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: How do trample mechanics work?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		By the manual, size difference does modify damage.  Upwards. 
 
I suspect that only getting one square of trample damage per round could render elephants nearly useless in combat. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				March 20th, 2008, 07:02 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				Major General 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Aug 2000 
					Location: Mountain View, CA 
					
					
						Posts: 2,162
					 
					 
	Thanks: 2 
	
		
			
				Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: How do trample mechanics work?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		I once had a Tartarian Titan set up to trample, with Stymphalian Wings, heroic quickness, and (IIRC) boots of quickness.  Good at squishing.  Not the best use of such a beast, but amusingly sadistic in SP. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				Are we insane yet?  Are we insane yet?   Aiiieeeeee...
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				March 20th, 2008, 07:19 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				Captain 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Aug 2003 
					
					
					
						Posts: 883
					 
					 
	Thanks: 0 
	
		
			
				Thanked 13 Times in 5 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: How do trample mechanics work?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				Kamamura said: 
shall we submit it as a bug?  
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 It is not a bug since it is working as intended. You might question if it is too powerfull etc or tramplers should cost more, but it is certainly not a bug.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				March 20th, 2008, 08:13 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				General 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Mar 2007 
					Location: Japan 
					
					
						Posts: 3,691
					 
					 
	Thanks: 269 
	
		
			
				Thanked 397 Times in 200 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: How do trample mechanics work?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				Gregstrom said: 
By the manual, size difference does modify damage.  Upwards. 
 
I suspect that only getting one square of trample damage per round could render elephants nearly useless in combat.  
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 My manual gives the damage as: 8 + 2*Size 
 
It says nothing at all about size difference (other than the tramplee needs to be smaller than the trampler).  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				Whether he submitted the post, or whether he did not, made no difference. The Thought Police would get him just the same. He had committed— would still have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper— the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it. Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever.
http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				March 20th, 2008, 08:21 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				Major 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Dec 2006 
					
					
					
						Posts: 1,226
					 
					 
	Thanks: 12 
	
		
			
				Thanked 86 Times in 48 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: How do trample mechanics work?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Think size difference matters in how many AP it takes to trample a square, not the damage...elephants seem to push a lot further than chariots when they trample from what I've seen. The other piece here is that I'd bet the trampling is applying the -2 defense for multiple attacks, which is why massed tramplers kill stuff so much faster than a lone unit...the unit's defense gets hammered down a lot more quickly when there are a lot of tramplers. This also explains why high defense units will lose to trample when it seems like they should be nearly immune to it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				March 20th, 2008, 08:37 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				Captain 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Aug 2003 
					
					
					
						Posts: 883
					 
					 
	Thanks: 0 
	
		
			
				Thanked 13 Times in 5 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: How do trample mechanics work?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Micah, correct, size difference determines AP cost. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				March 21st, 2008, 12:50 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				General 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Oct 2007 
					Location: Poland 
					
					
						Posts: 3,414
					 
					 
	Thanks: 26 
	
		
			
				Thanked 73 Times in 49 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: How do trample mechanics work?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Taqwus: 
I had Golem with Stymphalan Wings in MP and he got over 1100 kills    He had also 2 shields, cast personal luck and body ethereal so he could kill almost everything. Charcoal shield killed things he couldn't trample.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
 
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
	| Thread Tools | 
	
 
	| 
	
	
	
	 | 
	
 
	| Display Modes | 
	
 
	
	
	
	
		  Linear Mode 
		
		
	 
	
	 | 
	
	
 
 
	
		
	
		 
		Posting Rules
	 | 
 
	
		
		You may not post new threads 
		You may not post replies 
		You may not post attachments 
		You may not edit your posts 
		 
		
		
		
		
		HTML code is On 
		 
		
	  | 
 
 
	 | 
	
		
	 | 
 
 
     |  
 |