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				Re: Blood Vengeance 101   v.1.1
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		I know i just mind hunted a couple in Kingmaker. Either I passed the mr check or it does not work on  death spells. It does not work on enslave either unless my mage passed the mr check on bv 2 about 7 times. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		I did some BV testing several weeks back, mostly to see how high I could get it.  
 
-The blood vengeance spell does not stack with existing BV, instead the caster simply casts a different spell.  
 
-The Flesh Ward actually grants a +2 bonus to BV. Those units without BV get only +1 because the first bonus is used in granting them the ability. This is consistent with how awe and fear stack. 
 
-Paralyze damage does not trigger BV as far as I know. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		What about trampling?  I've got some Angels of Fury, and my opponent has some elephants. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		I would say give it a go. What have you got to lose? They cannot do any worse than the harbinger. muhahahahahha. 
 
 
Actually Admiral is a very very good player. I am just giving him a hard time. He has taken half my empire. I was surprised the awe on the harbinger seemed to have so little effect on the elephants as well. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Heh, thank you for the kind words Xietor.  I couldn't resist trying for your elephants; I hoped the combination of Awe + Fear + HeartSeeker would let the angel massacre the entire herd.  Unfortunately, your Sleeper put a quick end to that Angel's career.  I suppose the lesson here is to do a bit more scouting before sending your thugs off to face enemy armies. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				-Paralyze damage does not trigger BV as far as I know. 
			
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Someone chain cast Paralyze on a Vastness of mine some time back.  Out of a million casts, at least 2 stuck on the Vastness, and none of his casters got Paralyzed.
 
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		Thanks once again for bring up that painful  memory. But yes, that is exactly how I know that paralyze doesn't bounce... yet mind blast does. Sigh...
 
Eh, I'm just kidding. It wasn't all that painful as I'm sure you had expected to win that battle by a much larger margin.   
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				Thanks once again for bring up that painful  memory. But yes, that is exactly how I know that paralyze doesn't bounce... yet mind blast does. Sigh...
 
Eh, I'm just kidding. It wasn't all that painful as I'm sure you had expected to win that battle by a much larger margin.   
			
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		Any updates on the above post?  It was a compilation of anecdotal reports, but would be nice to clarify / confirm. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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