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				December 10th, 2011, 04:36 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Anomaly reports 
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 Class 217 – MRV APC
 
 Finland 48 & 49, Zimbabwe 35 and UN 37 have Load Cost less than 10.
 
 Buffel – Zimbabwe 30 has Speed 18, standard is 30.
 
 Casspir – Peru 35 has Survivability 6, all others have 4.
 
 
 Class 220 – Heavy MRV APC
 
 Jordan 379 & 380 have RoF 6. I suspect that, with a 20mm as primary weapon, it should be 9. NB also applies to Jordan 194 (Class 37) which I think I missed.
 
 
 Class 237 – MRV IFV
 
 S.Africa 470 has RoF 9, standard is 4.
 
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				December 10th, 2011, 08:34 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Anomaly reports 
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					Originally Posted by Richard_H  BRDM-2 Szakal – Poland 579 has HEAT Armour 33 all round. Seems a lot without a speed reduction for weight. |  Version with bar armour never entered service, only was shown on MSPO salon in 2004 (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi..._Szakal%2B.JPG  ). It was intended for Iraq mission, while the Polish Army uses Rosomaks as basic armoured vehicles in Afghanistan, and BRDMs are generally to be withdrawn soon.
 
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					Originally Posted by Richard_H  M577 – Spain 310 & 312 have Size 4, Speed 31 and Swim Speed 3, standards are 3/23/2. ... |  It is a huge vehicle. IMO it should be bigger, than M113 (size 3).
 
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				December 11th, 2011, 10:16 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Anomaly reports 
 APCs - pared down to basics.
 Class 23 – APC Wheeled
 
 China 748 is a halftrack with Move Class 4. It is neither a template unit, nor is it X3 coded. It is, however, the only unit available 1/46 to 12/49.
 
 Chile 47 has Lift Capacity 132. Chile 48 has 116, which is AFAIK correct.
 
 Australia 58, Finland 46 and UN 39 have Load Cost less than 10.
 
 Czech 265 and Cambodia 60 have RoF 6, Chile 43 has 7, standard is 9.
 
 
 Class 24 – APC Halftrack
 
 France 85 & 86 have Speed 18, standard is 24.
 
 
 Class 25 – APC Tracked
 
 Belgium 61 & 62 and Nigeria 38 are wheeled vehicles. None is a template unit, nor is any of them X3 coded. All dates are covered by other (tracked) vehicles.
 
 Jordan 54, Norway 30, Greece 107 and Switzerland 34 have Load Cost less than 10.
 
 Iran 67 has RoF 4, standard is 9.
 
 Iran 69 has RoF 9, standard is 4.
 
 Egypt 69 & 70 and Ukraine 334 have RoF 4, standard is 7.
 
 
 Class 121 – Light APC
 
 UK 274, Denmark 58, Thailand 64 & 65 and Rhodesia 215 have Load Cost less than 10.
 
 Belgium 65 has RoF 4, Mujahadeen 312 and Afghanistan 312 have 6, standard is 9.
 
 M3 Halftrack – Belgium 58 has Speed 19, Denmark 57 has 18, standard is 24.
 
 M577 – Israel 406 has Speed 18, standard is 23.
 
 
 Class 122 – Light Support APC
 
 Ethiopia 271 has no ammunition for Weapon 2.
 
 Australia 253, Netherlands 265-267, Algeria 305, Cambodia 491, Chad 305 and Ethiopia 271 have Load Cost less than 10.
 
 Algeria 303 and Chad 303 have RoF 90, Belgium 183 has 4, PLO 46 has 6, standard is 9.
 
 PSzH-IV – Bulgaria 61 has Speed 36, standard is 27.
 
 BTR-40 – Sudan 296 and N.Yemen 303 have Movement Class ‘Tracked’.
 
 Shorland – Lebanon 305 has Speed 18, standard is 24.
 
 V-150 Commando – Taiwan 491 has Speed 30, standard is 36.
 
 
 Class 123 – Airborne APC
 
 Russia 976 and China 738 have Load Cost less than 10.
 
 GAZ-3937 - Russia 976 has Speed 30, standard is 37.
 Ukraine 549 has Survivability 0, standard is 4.
 Russia 549 & 976 and Ukraine 549 have Crew 1. I‘d think they would need at least a gunner as well.
 
 M114 – USA 4 & 332 have Survivability 0, standard is 4.
 
 
 Class 124 – Airborne Support APC
 
 Kraka - W.Germany 78 has RoF 9, standard is 6.
 W.Germany 64, 65 & 70 have RoF 6, standard is 4.
 
 
 Class 126 – Gun APC Wheeled
 
 USA 350 has Load Cost 9.
 
 
 Class 127 – Gun APC Tracked
 
 M113 – Australia 35 & 36 have RoF 9, standard is 7.
 
 
 Class 251 – APC
 
 Italy 211 & 212 have Load Cost 6.
 
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				December 11th, 2011, 02:22 PM
			
			
			
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 Aircraft classes.
 Apart from a few iffy speeds that I'm not going to waste your time with, the only major anomaly I can find is that the bulk of the Russian Air Force has a zero Survivability rating. As this involves something over 100 units, I'm not going there - yet. But unless it's deliberate, I suggest it's something that's worth an in-depth look at some stage in the future.
 
 Which only leaves the tank classes . . .
 
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				December 11th, 2011, 05:08 PM
			
			
			
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 Noted, I'm way busy ATM but will get back to you later on this. For now just ingore that
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				December 12th, 2011, 05:21 AM
			
			
			
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 Understood, I don't even feel like tackling it myself yet. You'll be pleased to hear that the tanks report is mercifully short . . .
 Class 12 – Light Tank
 
 Switzerland 25 & 920-922 and Finland 370-372 have Load Cost less than 10.
 
 
 Class 103 – Medium Tank
 
 Lebanon 555 has no ammunition for Weapon 4.
 
 
 Class 106 – CS Infantry Tank
 
 USMC 461 & 462 have the 120mm gun in Weapon slot 2 as well as in slot 1.
 
 
 Class 131 – Cavalry Tank
 
 China 501 has RoF 7, standard is 9.
 
 
 Class 175 – Airborne Light Tank
 
 W.Germany 62 & 96 have RoF 9, standard is 4.
 
 And that concludes what I hope has been a worthwhile exercise. One of these days I'll do the same for WW2 - but not yet!
 
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					Originally Posted by DRG  The survivability number is NOTused by the game for aircraft or helos and therefore does not factor into a units cost as calculated by the cost calculator. Over time those numbers have been added in by various OOB writers as a matter of habit but they have no more effect on the game than would if a survival factor was added to infantry. The game simply does not read it. |  I know survivability is not used for aircraft, but I want to confirm it is also ignored for helos????
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 That's right. They don't spit out crews when they crash so no helos either
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					Originally Posted by DRG  That's right. They don't spit out crews when they crash so no helos either
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