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		I'm having a problem.  My ships won't attack the units of one of my enemies.  I see him (he is cloaked but I have Hyperoptics III on one of the ships in the fleet) and can target him but combat never starts.  First I said to myself    "Self . . . I bet that Warlord Shade is cloaked"  
then I discovered that was not the case. Then I said    "Self . . . check to  
see if he has the strategy firing options set to ' don't fire on ships with  
no weapons ' and alas that idea burned in the pit too. 
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		Is it not initiating combat? 
 
Or is it just running away? 
 
perhaps your weapons cannot target his units? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		we are closing with them and remaining in the same space but no combat happens.  I've tried with some fighters with projectile cannons and a battle cruiser with anti-proton beams.  I've tried on 2 different types of ships neither of which is armed 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		I assume you are at war with them? 
Perhaps the units were gifted to one of your allies,and just look like enemies? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		If you have a treaty higher than Non-Interaction, they aren't your "enemy", and you can't attack them. 
 
If you can give a ship the Sentry (hotkey Y) order, and it doesn't immediately clear in a sequential game, or on your next turn in a simultaneous game, they're allied ships. 
  
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		But if they aren't enemies they shouldn't even go into combat mode, now they go to conmbat mode but don't close, just sits there for 30 turns. 
Have I understood the problem? 
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 Since you can't get into the same combat square without ramming, I take this to mean that they are sharing a system sector, and are not getting into the combat mode/window. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		There also won't be a combat if your own ships are cloaked, and they can't see yours. 
 
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		DOH!...my ally had captured them the turn before and they both have the same race icon...I had to open his turn to figure it out...thanks for all the suggestions guys     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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