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				March 27th, 2003, 10:26 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Things in SEIV I never knew about.... 
 No. Construction rates represent the maximum number of resources of each type that can be put into building and object in each turn. They do not represent a pool of construction points. Any unused rate is lost. |  
	
		
	
	
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	Well, though I bemoan the loss of "unsued" construction points, I'm glad to see I haven't been getting my butt whooped because I didn't know about the most advantageous way to get ships out of the queueQuote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Imperator Fyron: No. Construction rates represent the maximum number of resources of each type that can be put into building and object in each turn. They do not represent a pool of construction points. Any unused rate is lost.
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				March 28th, 2003, 12:09 AM
			
			
			
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 The most efficient way to make sure that your construction queues are going to be used to full capacity is to design your ships with the largest cost (typically minerals) just under a multiple of the build speed.
 Lets say your spaceyards are building at 3000 per turn.
 Good ship designs: 3000 (1 turn), 5900 (2 turns), 8950 (3 turns), etc
 Bad ship designs: 3100 (2 turns), 6250 (3 turns), 9400 (4 turns).
 I sometimes even designs variations of the same ship for different speed spaceyards.
 
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	Well, designing ships to closely match SY rates makes sense.  However, without looking up retro-fitting costs, doesn't that cost more in materials (retro-fitting) than had it been built straight out of the SY?Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Imperator Fyron: Just remove a comp or two, then retrofit the ship after finished to add those comps back on.
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 Retro is about economics.  If you can aford it, do it.  This is a viable alternative to races with weak production, but extra resources per turn. 
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	Well, that also makes sense.  I guess that's another reason I get my *** kicked so oftenQuote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Atrocities: Retro is about economics.  If you can aford it, do it.  This is a viable alternative to races with weak production, but extra resources per turn.
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 you can get unused construction points to carry over into the next build by ordering multile units (ie one fighter takes one turn to build, but ten fighters of the same design might only need 8 or 9 turns at the same yard. YMMV)
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 Later in the game when you fight ships with shield depleters consider investing in Armor. It really pays off.
 Yesterday, I did some experiments with hi-tech ships. I found out that ships with armor perform much better than those with shields, when facing enemy with shield depleters(this is logical, after all, but it didn't strike me before). I admit I didn't consider weapons that penetrate armor(this inludes almost exclusively crystaline tech tree, Null space weapons are too exppensive to be effective) and you will have to repair very often but this way your ships will survive longer and thus will have more experience. The point is that ships with shield depleters will have less damage potential against you. Another advantage is mineral cost. While a "standard" dreadnought with anti-proton beams costs about 27000 minerals, an armor-protected ship costs about 21000 minerals.
 BTW: You can add one shield generator and one shield regenerator. Just in case there are some boarding fanatics. :-)
 
			
			
			
			
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 Yes, that's true and that's why I proposed to give there shield regenerator. Anyway, if the enemy has the firepower to put down your shields in 1 turn(and on hi-tech ships he usually has) you are in trouble anyway. With armor you have at least something to protect you... And if you know that the enemy has those weapons, just retrofit one wepon to repulser beam and most problems are gone. |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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