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		Yes, the QR is too powerful. Many people have been requesting that MM change it to produce only a certain amount of supplies per turn. There is a difference between infinite supplies at a fixed rate of production and infinite supplies at an infinite rate of production. It wouldn't be that big a change, either. He'd only have to change a few lines of code somewhere. We just have to get enough people to ask for it to convince him. 
  
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How about if your ships get hit by Ionic Dispersers? If all that the ship has is engines (no supply pods or QR), it will be out of supplies, and unable to fire (assuming the ID gets past the shields).       This is why QR on every ship, or a Supply Storage on every ship, is a good idea.
			
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		i hope they wouldnt remove the quantum engine ability all together, just add a new ability to generate x-amount of supplies per turn.  that way you could have different levels of ability.  
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QR's give too much.  I say ban them! 
			
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		Proportions treat QR rather gently, you may check how PvK moded it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		You can always mod a special ships plating of solar panals or a large efficient solar sail. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Solar panels are not a good solution, because their generation is dependant on the stars in the system. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		My understanding is that the QR is "too" good. 
The Solar Sails have limitations.  The amount of juice they generate is moddable. 
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		Solar collector generation is based off of stars in the system. This is not what QR are supposed to do. They should not be dependant on the number of stars for supply generation. This is why it is an imperfect solution. What we need is an ability that generates X supplies per turn, period. No dependance on stars or anything like that. 
  
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In combat however all ships use supplies and it is possible for non-QR ships to run out of supplies in combat, even if they are in a fleet. 
 
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 What kind of supply sucking high energy cannons do you use to run out of supplies? The engine supplies should be completely filled at the beginning of the combat in case of a QR in a fleet. The engines should provide enough supplies even for components like planet crunchers         Take a look at the supply usage of Capital Ship Missiles. 
 
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