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		Have any of you in playing a solo game taken over a Neutral race (keeping yours of course) and try to build them as you would your own? You will have the draw backs of not being able to warp but that is some of the chalenge     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Well, that warp thing pretty much rules that option out for me...     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		I did try it.  And it was OK.  I built up my sector and held out against all the others.   
 
The way to play the game is to play the other computer players against each other, with alliances that are good for you and bad for them.  I didn't do this well. 
 
The only ally I had was the TDM-Modpack Xiati.  They don't make partnership treatys, so I could never find out who else was out there.  The Xiati soon wiped out the entire galaxy, and there was no one else for me to trade planets with, a perfect stalemate resulted. 
 
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 I did this, and was able to warp. Ended up winning the game IIRC. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		For the warping was it after you resurched the tech? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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  quote: Originally posted by mottlee: 
Have any of you in playing a solo game taken over a Neutral race (keeping yours of course) and try to build them as you would your own? You will have the draw backs of not being able to warp but that is some of the chalenge          
			
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 I did this, and was able to warp.  No, you didn't. Neutral races are prevented from warping by the game code. There is some discussion whether there have been some wierd exceptions to this from time to time, but it wouldn't be something consistant and repeatable for your game. 
 
Most likely what happened is you took over an AI race you thought was a neutral. For example if you notice during a game if someone uses PPP and a planet splits off and declares it's independance, the empire will often look like a neutral. Typically it will get the single color neutral flag, but the race pic will be like it's parent race and the empire name will usually be named after the system the planet is in. Even though these empries have a single color "neutral" flag, they are not neutrals and can warp and expand their empire normally. 
 
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		Yup, the full neut....IF you gift another planet to them you can get them to build in another system to help make them larger     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 So that should be the most important plan when you play as a neutral.  Get on an alien race's good side, and trade planets.  You have to balance that with building up your system defence.  It's tough, when you surounded by a suspicious race like the Xiati, and a violent race like the Rage. 
 
I did get the Xiati to trade any comm channel, and find out about the Borarboa States.  And I got the Borarbora States to surrender to me.  So I had two systems -- but that really was it. 
 
I built a ringworld and a sphereworld, and filled them with Intel facilities.  I could just exactly match the Intel power of the Xiati who controlled the rest of the galaxy -- again a perfect stalemate. 
 
I put multiple storms over each planet, some obscuring and some damaging.  Huge Xiati fleets entered, lost their sensor ship, and combat wouldn't start. Unless I entered, damaged that ship, and began combat.  Then after resoution, the Xiati would just sit there. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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