Tech "trading" question

[JurijD]

It is my understanding that one can trade technology (if direct tech trading is disabled) by gifting your allies a ship that has componetns on it.

1. And if I understand the rules of this correctly then when you analyze a gifted ship you get one new tech level for every UNIQUE componet you don´t have. So if you don´t have Phased polaron yet and you analyze a ship that has Phased polaron I, II, III, IV and V on it, your tech level on Phased polaron increases to level 5... Right?

2. what happenes if the player getting the ship with the 5 different polarons on it didn´t research Physics to a level that enabled him to research Polaron by himself yet... will he get Phased polaron up to level 5 upon analyzing the ship anyway or is that extra level needed to get to the right physics level used up... so he gets 1 more physics level and polaron up to level 4?

3. What about techs that don´t have ship componets on them. Say Relegious technology where you have 4 levels but only the Last one is a componet (Religious talisman). What happenes if your ally gifts you a planet that has structures on it you don´t have (and you are religious too)... say he has a planet with War Shrine I,II and III on it and gives you that planet... would you acquire thech level III in Religious Technology?

4. If not... is there any way to "trade" this technology withouth enabeling the tech trade option?

[geoschmo]

There is no way to analyze facilities. If the tech doesn't have a ship component that can be analyzed, then the only way to get it to another player is by direct tech trading.

Also, your example used religious. Don't forget that the other player won't be able to analyze the talisman even if he hasn't taken the religious racial trait at the begining of the game.

[JurijD]

I realize that withouth the right racial traits he won´t be able to get the talisman... And even if he has religious and analizes the talisman he´ll only get 1 more lavel to his Religious tech (the next of whatever he will have ATT) Thanks for answering #1, #3 and #4.

What About Question #2?

[ January 25, 2004, 13:51: Message edited by: JurijD ]

[primitive]

#2 will work, but make sure you place whatever in the right order (1-2-3----).

If not already done, I would recomend asking the host and the other players if ship trading/analysing are OK. Some players will assume it is cheating in a no tech trade game, unless it is specifically allowed.

[Fyron]

For #2, you will get Phased Energy Weapons 5. You never get prerequisite techs from analyzing a ship, only direct techs required for the component. If you do not have physics and you analyze a ship with PPB I, you will get Phased Energy Weapons 1, but will be unable to research any higher until you acquire Physics.

[JurijD]

Originally posted by primitive:
#2 will work, but make sure you place whatever in the right order (1-2-3----).

If not already done, I would recomend asking the host and the other players if ship trading/analysing are OK. Some players will assume it is cheating in a no tech trade game, unless it is specifically allowed.

Well in this game whatever is not disabled is allowed... something that can be done legaly in a game CANNOT be considered cheating. Its only smart playing

and besides everyone is doing it so...lol.