OT: The Passion of the Christ movie

Aiken · #1 May 22nd, 2004, 07:50 PM

Today I saw this film in the cinema. And good god I'm so full of impressions that I must express them somewhere and to somebody.

To clear the point: I'm not a Christian, quite the contrary - I'm atheist, but this day is the Last day in my life when I where able to blame Christianity or Jesus. Because I'm understand this religion now, its base and philosophy. And my conviction that his sacrifice was useless is even stronger now.

Many thanks to Mr. Gibson for this outstanding creation, I think every man considering himself as a christian must see this film, because visit to chirch is habit, not faith.
Every counter-christian considering himself objective must see this film in order to TRY to understand other point of view.

And Last one: if you noticed just blood and violence in this movie and missed Love - you don't understand what is love (I saw people, laughing in the middle of the film, and people who spoke "That the horrible bloody triller", so don't be surprised by my tone).

Sorry for spelling.

Atrocities · #2 May 22nd, 2004, 07:57 PM

If your recommending it, then perhaps I should consider seeing it. I just don't know.

Phoenix-D · #3 May 22nd, 2004, 07:57 PM

Sacrifice is useless? Which is still around again, the Roman Empire or Christianity?

Aiken · #4 May 22nd, 2004, 08:25 PM

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Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
Sacrifice is useless? Which is still around again, the Roman Empire or Christianity?

In spite of 2000 years of Christianity, the same people who crucified him still rule our world. He would be in a great sorrow if he known that.

Grauzone · #5 May 22nd, 2004, 10:07 PM

To this day i had an other opinion of this movie. I'll see him too, to understand the polarisation between so many opinions in this issue.

I have BIG respect on every man or woman who ever changed the world in so impressive manner such Jesus did. But too many sects of "Christianity" do not propagate what Jesus wanted. Their interpretations of his "will" and his "intetions" are very arbitrary. I can agree with very few of them, but in most cases i do not.

I'm atheist, but i understand why so many people need religion to live in this world. Religion and
"view of the world" should be an private issue of every person. We have only the right to discuss the acceptance of a "religion" if the doctrin of this philosophy is not compatible with our Laws or with our understanding of "human rights".

Baron Munchausen · #6 May 22nd, 2004, 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
Sacrifice is useless? Which is still around again, the Roman Empire or Christianity?

The Roman Empire, masquerading as Christianity. It all started with Emperor Constantine wanting to integrate religion into his political toolkit, but it continued even after the original political authority, the Emperor, was gone. This is most obvious with Roman Catholicism since they have a single 'head' of their church comparable to the Emperor, but nearly all of the other sects are also political parties using religion to justify their authority, not religions. Only a few 'odd' movements on the fringes like the Quakers could really be called religious.

freduk · #7 May 22nd, 2004, 11:06 PM

The movie is 95% pure torture. I think it is a rather bad movie, because it has nothing else to offer than just that.
Concerning your admiration for Jesus: he wasn't the only one to make that "sacrifice" as it is called.
A lot of people were tortured to death in those days, or did you think the tools of torture were invented solely for him?
The only thing that makes Jesus stand out from the other people that were tortured to death is the rumours that he resurrected, which I do not believe, of course.

mottlee · #8 May 22nd, 2004, 11:52 PM

I think this movie was going over the Last 12 hours of his life, to show what was done to him and what was endured, I am a "christian" however I have yet to see this movie, I find it difficalt to hold my anger in when I think about what Man can/will do to Man

Azselendor · #9 May 23rd, 2004, 05:08 AM

I actually recommend this film to any and all people studying film. Congrats to Mel for making the second worst film in history. First being Gigli and Third being Plan Nine from Outer Space.

This is what I consider and shock'n'awe film. It's aim is to put up so much brutal and inhuman things on to the screen that the audience cringe and vomits from all points of entry and egress.

I too am an Athiest, however, I understand the point Jesus was making and the whole idea behind that entire biblical story. Sadly, Mel didn't do that. What Mel did was try to turn the bible into a film that points and screams "Look Look! Be a christian because of the way he died!"

I wholly agree man can be cruel to other men.

But the purpose of this film isn't to do that. It's to get christians frothing at the mouth and get them going door to door converting.

Aiken · #10 May 23rd, 2004, 12:24 PM

Probably I was too categorical with my "must see" statement. I can bet that 80% of audience felt nothing but anger and loathing then watched this film. They saw only 1-st layer of the story, but totally missed the rest. That's not surprizing for me.

So sad that where so few people who still able to compassion and forgiveness