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				 3rd party software request 
 could someone write something that will check my files and tell me about inconsistancys? This is the 3rd time that I have installed SEIV, went shopping for add-ons (mostly races), and polluted the game beyond playability.
 OK fine, Im beginning to understand the notes about requiring certain Versions and certain MODs. I can only have one mod running? And once I have a build that works I will zip all my subdirectorys off of SEIV and copy it somewhere. But it would sure be nice right now if I could just run some exe to tell me that a few races are lacking some files.
 
 Are there race files on the shrapnel server that need updated or deleted so they wont be downloaded anymore?
 
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				July 5th, 2004, 04:34 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: 3rd party software request 
 The main problem with races is sometimes they have missing pictures. 
I think some races have a file named "StyleTester.exe" thats around 292Kb in size (give or take) Do a search in your SEIV Gold Directory for it. It's designed to show the stock race pictures and show you how well "masked" they are.
 
The downside is it has to be in the races folder (as in the Racestyle folder e.g. "Abbidon") to run and it should tell you if it is lacking any pictures for the stock game by displaying an error. Not exactly convienient but better than nothing      [ July 05, 2004, 15:36: Message edited by: Raging Deadstar ] |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: 3rd party software request 
 Forgot to add. 
You can have more than one mod installed       http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin...;f=23;t=011991 
Grab the Mod Launcher from there, it allows you to load up that program and then switch mods as well       
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				July 5th, 2004, 06:00 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: 3rd party software request 
 Thanks Raging Deadstar I was trying to find this the other day - This is just what I wanted. 
Perfect, this is directly from the Shrapnel site            
You could always have any amount of MODS installed as long as (THEY DO NOT OVERWRITE OR ADD DATA TO THE MAIN ROOT SE4 DATA ETC...) or at least they should give an pre-instructional  warning       
Or as you say“pollute” or CORRUPT if you will - another MODS DATA with out warning that this  rewrite into another MODS folders may VOID THAT MOD.     
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It is the (se4 Path file) that becomes  awkward for new players and this just may alleviate the troubles from switching MODS and/or returning to the stock se4   
EDIT REMOVED OLD LINK reinserted RD's:
  http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newup...1039630481.zip
 
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				 Re: 3rd party software request 
 Hmm..just noticed now. The link in the thread i linked goes to the 3rd page of the Mod Launcher thread...Terrible on my behalf.http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newup...1039630481.zip 
Thats the Link to the Most updated and recent Modlauncher file. I don't think it changed much from the older Versions but some were having trouble with it.      |  
	
		
	
	
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				July 5th, 2004, 06:16 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: 3rd party software request 
 Well I wasnt going to use MODs until I had played with the game abit. Maybe DevNull or TDM which seem to just add capabilities without trying to rewrite thegame (doesnt try to make the AIs harder or anything). Do I have those right?
 I wouldnt mind increasing options, and increasing maps, playing with more races and neutral races. But I didnt want an extremely modified Version of the game
 
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 Actually, TDM is a major re-write of the AI files to make a MUCH tougher AI.  It does not change any of the component or facilities or anything, just changes the AI's, and I believe a few of the formations. 
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				 Re: 3rd party software request 
 A common problem with adding races is getting races that were designed for SE IV "classic" (v1.49 or lower). A pre-Gold race will produce a flock of error Messages in Gold every time its AI files are accessed. Instructions for converting pre-Gold races to Gold are linked in my sig.
 I don't know of any software to check and fix this automatically.
 
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				 Re: 3rd party software request 
 
	I do not know how this went from the 3rd party MOD Launcher  search - to TDM: but I also Agree that TDM is the way to go as you said Gandalf Parker - "after new players have played the se4 game abit."Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Gandalf Parker: Well I wasnt going to use MODs until I had played with the game abit. Maybe DevNull or TDM which seem to just add capabilities without trying to rewrite thegame (doesnt try to make the AIs harder or anything). Do I have those right?
 
 I wouldnt mind increasing options, and increasing maps, playing with more races and neutral races. But I didnt want an extremely modified Version of the game
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 And agreed: se4 Players also enjoy MODs - whether they offer a MODED AI  as with TDM and AIC or just  Facilities and/or just Component styles, Vehicals, Mounts, Formations Etc... and of coarse ALL the above: Would you not agree?
 
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 NOTE: I have noticed that TDM also changes the se4 Path to its folder, so the use of the Latest  MOD launcher that we originally discussed will be of value all around
  
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