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				 Who pissed in Trotter\'s coffee? 
 Trotter has a full article on getting started in wargaming in this month's PC Gamer. I read the entire thing, and to my surprise, not a single mention of Shrapnel Games. They didn't even list the web site in their little sidebar of web sites.
 I know there has been a lot of controversy going on with Matrix Games and who owns who, but for crying out loud, PC Gamer is a printed magazine that is supposed to cover everything.
 
 So my question is, did somebody at Shrapnel Games do something to piss off Trotter or PC Gamer?
 
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				 Re: Who pissed in Trotter\'s coffee? 
 I noticed the same thing Todd, and I am not the least bit pleased by it.  Of course I don't have to deal with reviewers anymore (and that makes me happy)     .
 
At the very least we should have been mentioned in the links section, it's incredibly insulting.
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				 Re: Who pissed in Trotter\'s coffee? 
 Richard, I'm crushed!       
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				 Re: Who pissed in Trotter\'s coffee? 
 Present company not included     .
 
You were always easy to deal with Jim.
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				 Re: Who pissed in Trotter\'s coffee? 
 Shrapnel will be ignored until 82nd Airborne is released.
 "PC Gamer" is only PC games. Lock and Load doesn't count.
 
 And yes I am a great fan of Matrix. But if somebody else makes a great game I will support it.
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				 Re: Who pissed in Trotter\'s coffee? 
 That's funny we get all sorts of wargaming articles all the time Joe     .  Yeah we're getting ignored.
 
Seriously we will get the game out, specifically so you will be happy     .
 
And I am just kidding with you.
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				 Re: Who pissed in Trotter\'s coffee? 
 Dunno, when he reviewed SE4 Gold, I think he said something like "... miracle workers at Shrapnel Games..." I believe.  Could be misquoting.  PC Gamer is a pretty good magazine IMO. 
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				 Re: Who pissed in Trotter\'s coffee? 
 And my spending is limited to computer games. 
Computer wargames.
 
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				 Re: Who pissed in Trotter\'s coffee? 
 http://www.pcgamer.com/columns/deskt...01-07-30d.html
Heres Trotter talking about Shrapnel.  Not too shabby. 
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