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	I think the opposite of this. If you are starting to use a computer and all your using it for is office, email and web surfing linux or mac is what to use. Ubuntu or Knoppix is easier to get working than windows. Less people attack it, it comes with a security system and no activex. I think the ONLY hard thing to do when installing Ubuntu is using and remembering a complex user password. Everything else is the enter key. If you want to play all the games in the world you have to learn how to keep windows working or get them running in emulators.Quote: 
	
		| Spoo said: I'm more of an "advanced user".  If I was an expert, I'd run Linux.
 
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 Why would they? Most people don't you know? Most people use computers for really simple stuff.Edit: samba is easy to set up these days.
 Edit#2: I get it, you think I ment using it at work when I listed office. I meant office suit like Microsoft Office or Open Office or KOffice. Linux sometimes is a good idea for a company but usually changing is to hard (so I hear anyway).
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		| parabolize said: Edit: samba is easy to set up these days.
 
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Actually I meant that passwords memorization is not the most complex task in *nix OS. Of course most Users don't need apps, I've mentioned. But even moron-friendly distros like Linspire or Xandros need manual optimizations, else they would be horribly slow compared to winxp, cause default installation is overbloated with redundant stuff. |  
	
		
	
	
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 Linux distros vary widely.  I've used Red Hat, and it is decent, but can't hold a candle to better UIs.  KDE I hear is good.Even for hard core development, I work on Windows.  That is my target platform (Windows on x32 or x64).  Linux is more like a "utility belt" or something.  I will use it for very specific tasks that I don't need to do much else.
 
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 Windows = Almost any one can use. 
OS9 = Only for yuppies and fanatics 
Lynux = Only uber smart people and excessive computer nerds.
 
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 "Windows = Almost any one can use."My sister must be an idiot.
 "OS9 = Only for yuppies and fanatics"
 I hear it has good multimedia. Isn't 10 out?
 "Lynux = Only uber smart people and excessive computer nerds"
 Thank you but I'm not (maybe I am a nerd but that doesn't help). Seriously the install is easier than windows. Well maybe not if you plan to duel boot with windows but a clean install is easy.
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		| parabolize said: Thank you but I'm not (maybe I am a nerd but that doesn't help). Seriously the install is easier than windows. Well maybe not if you plan to duel boot with windows but a clean install is easy.
 
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		| parabolize said: "Windows = Almost any one can use."
 My sister must be an idiot.
 "OS9 = Only for yuppies and fanatics"
 I hear it has good multimedia. Isn't 10 out?
 "Lynux = Only uber smart people and excessive computer nerds"
 Thank you but I'm not (maybe I am a nerd but that doesn't help). Seriously the install is easier than windows. Well maybe not if you plan to duel boot with windows but a clean install is easy.
 
 |  The word almost  should have cleared that misconception up right away.      Your sister is, I am sure, very smart.
 
Mac's = Hollywood.  Just look for the little apple icon on all those computers you see in the movies.
 
You make my point about Lynux very well, thank you.  
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	IMHO, installing Linux, even dual-booting with Windows, is quite easy. Personally, my biggest problem is getting all the hardware to work correctly, especially if you have a new computer. I haven't tried Linux in over a year, but back then, getting it working on a laptop was a total pain, due to having to spend lots of time finding and testing drivers for things like video card, CD drive, fiddling around with stuff to get power management functions etc.Quote: 
	
		| parabolize said: Thank you but I'm not (maybe I am a nerd but that doesn't help). Seriously the install is easier than windows. Well maybe not if you plan to duel boot with windows but a clean install is easy.
 
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 Right now, I have a Centrino laptop with Wi-Fi, a DVD writer combo drive, and a 64 meg video card. I can just imagine how much time I will have to spend to get everything working, time that I'd rather spend playing games. Go windows!
   
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	The word almost should have cleared that misconception up right away.Quote: 
	
		| parabolize said: "Windows = Almost any one can use."
 My sister must be an idiot.
 "OS9 = Only for yuppies and fanatics"
 I hear it has good multimedia. Isn't 10 out?
 "Lynux = Only uber smart people and excessive computer nerds"
 Thank you but I'm not (maybe I am a nerd but that doesn't help). Seriously the install is easier than windows. Well maybe not if you plan to duel boot with windows but a clean install is easy.
 
 |   Your sister is, I am sure, very smart. 
 Mac's = Hollywood.  Just look for the little apple icon on all those computers you see in the movies.
 
 You make my point about Lynux very well, thank you.
   
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