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				 Making Neutral Empires Surrender? 
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				December 24th, 2004, 06:19 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Making Neutral Empires Surrender? 
 By the data files, they will surrender based primarily on the difference in scores.  I believe you need 10x their score to make them surrender.  There may other modifiers based on their mood toward your empire. 
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				December 24th, 2004, 07:44 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Making Neutral Empires Surrender? 
 Build a fleet of 10 ships, with CS missiles.  Make peace with them. Send your fleet to their world.  Break the treaty, bomb their planet, and demand surrender.  Do this until they surrender or until your ship obliterate them.
 Then their colony planets will surrender.
 
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				December 24th, 2004, 07:49 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Making Neutral Empires Surrender? 
 very evil. neutral abuse. wait till the NCLU (Neutral Civil Liberties Union) hears about that. 
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				December 24th, 2004, 08:48 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Making Neutral Empires Surrender? 
 Glass every colony they own except for a moon.  Ask for surrender every turn until they do.
 If you use troops, capture a world breatheable for you but not for them.  Use it to build ships.  Their population rebels just like yours when there are enemy ships around, so they lose income -- from the only system they have.
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				 Re: Making Neutral Empires Surrender? 
 
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		| Slick said: very evil. neutral abuse. wait till the NCLU (Neutral Civil Liberties Union) hears about that.
 
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				 Re: Making Neutral Empires Surrender? 
 LOL. AT, you are in need of a cuppa holiday cheer:   
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				 Re: Making Neutral Empires Surrender? 
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				 Re: Making Neutral Empires Surrender? 
 Personally I found that if you destroy all of their ships (which should be easy since they can't leave system) they normally suttender. If they don't, just glass those pesky alien worlds. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Making Neutral Empires Surrender? 
 
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		| kerensky said: Personally I found that if you destroy all of their ships (which should be easy since they can't leave system) they normally suttender. If they don't, just glass those pesky alien worlds.
 
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