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		Graphics card resources are still system resources... You over-render grass, you slow down the rendering of everything else. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		The problem here is not whether the grass is rendered or not, the problem is that it's easy to see where it stops.  A properly executed rendering would effectively "fade" the rendering so the only way the player would see the rendering edge is to actively look for it - otherwise,  it'd be relatively unnoticeable. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		bingo!  atari_eric hit the bullseye...  
 
however, I don't know why we're debating an issue based on the hearsay in the first post. I shall refrain from grass arguments until I try the game and see for myself. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Well, I played for about 3 hours last night. 
 
I can understand all the criticisms that people have brought up - in my original post. 
 
The grass radius is noticeable, so I will see about turning it off when I get back outside the dungeon I am in.  The first dungeon (outside the tutorial) that I stumbled across is HUGE.  Something gratifying in watching a mindless skeleton stumble into swinging blades. 
 
The textures are not bad on my machine AMD 3700+/Radeon X850, but it depends on the lighting.  The second time I talked to the emperor - lighting made his face look ghastly, but again that was because of ambien lighting. 
 
I have never been much of a "sneak attack" kind of player, but I am enjoying the bow/marksman part of the game - in "sneak" mode 3x damage from afar, 6x damage if you can stab/slash them before they notice you. 
 
Anyway, much too early to give a full review.  I am on the default settings the program set for me - the quality is on high, I think, with a resolution of 800x600, which looks fine.  You can set it on letterbox, which I think I might do. 
 
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		Grass distance even has got its own optional settings: 
http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/i...owtopic=277929
Unfortunately the screenies of the initial post are too large, but it looks like you can customize almost everything about graphics.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		I know, I am  not dead-set on photorealistic gameplay.  I played Zork, Sword of Glass and Bard's Tale I, for goodness sake. 
 
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		My copy has been shipped. Details to follow, probably after I'm over the cold. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Huh? 
 
Anyway, according to UPS my package is slowly making its way accross the country. In the meantime, I've resorted to re-playing NWN. 
 
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