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				 OT: ErrorSafe 
 Do you get that sometimes? You're just surfing the Web, doing what you always do, and BAM - your browser (IE*) window goed crazy and you get some sort of "ErrorSafe" message? F***ING annoying, you've lost your browsing history, have to click through four or five screens to exit - why the f*** hasn't somebody done something about it already?
 Does anyone know if this is a piece of spy/adware, or (horror!) a Microsoft application?
 
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		| why the f*** hasn't somebody done something about {microsoft products being sh!t} already? 
 |  If M$ ever actually fixed something so that it worked in a reliable, secure and useful way, no one would ever have any reason to buy the next incarnation of it (which of course promises to be better, but isn't.)
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 I think the reason why microsoft doesn't fix their stuff is either because Windows is really really big, really really buggy, and really really hard to fix, or they just use their monopoly to excuse them being lazy and sitting in their oodles of cash. Most people would choose option 2. |  
	
		
	
	
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 THey don't fix the thing because they don't have to.  Its the most used product on the market for its purpose and they don't want to sink any more money into it after all these years.  The next "new" IE product coming out with Vista will be so revolutionary that it will make IE 5 look like IE 4!
 Its like the US automanufacturer, their sales are tanking, and they all come out and say that they will focus on "inovative new products."  And the rest of us yell back, "F*** inovation, give us reliability!"
 
 And they ignor us, and their sales continue to drop.  Unfortunetly, there is no where else for many of us to go with OS and such but to the might M$.  Sure you can use FF but more and more websites seem to be going the route of incompatable with FF and Mozilla in general forcing people back to IE.  (This is a conspiracy to be sure.)
 
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 In M$ case they have said to hell with both quality and inovation.  And they are actively making it difficult for the independant developers products to work in order to force people to use their crappy unimaginative, unsecure, unsafe, unstable, and unwanted product. 
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		| NullAshton said: I think the reason why microsoft doesn't fix their stuff is either because Windows is really really big, really really buggy, and really really hard to fix...
 
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 BUT has anyone had any trouble with these "ErrorSafe" messages or whatever they are? I'd like to know if that stuff is adware or not. 
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 I've never noticed anything like what you're describing.  Then again, I haven't used IE for well over a year now, so... 
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 I use IE at home and work.  I haven't ever seen those errors.  Sometimes my IE crashes the computer when it is first started and the computer is early in the its' startup cycle.
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 Google says "malware". Some instructions for removing it are here , but they pretty much boil down to "run Spybot Search & Destroy".
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