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		I need some help in diagnosing the AIs that might have their diplomacy borked...  so please post the name of the AI races that you've seen handle diplomacy proactively, as in propose new treaties... and which races are only threatening you about being in their systems and not really anything else? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		The Abbidon send overly large treaties.The Amonkrie do nothing,in my games. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Propose Treaties: Amon'Krie 
Threaten: Xiati? 
Don't do anything: All of the neutrals. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Xiati proposed treaties, refused quite often my counter proposals but accepted eventually one of my counter proposal. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		In my current game the Zudoc Federation has done nothing political at all, no warnings, threats, or treaty requests and they have not responed to any of my treaty requests. 
 
Also the Abbidon proposed "non agression" treaties that included large amounts of trade and banned research.  They also never surrendered even after I had them down to just their homeworld with no ships, bases, units, or facilities left and only about 1/2 their starting pop.  Man I wanted that gas colonization tech. In SEIV they would definitely have surrendered. 
 
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		lets see Xiati i have a conflict resolution treaty with trade 10% of smaller empire recently upped to 20% by ai, and required to seend all enemy ship designs (I believe as in other than mine message log seems to bear that out) 
Amnokrie kept demanding i leave yukra (sp) system and now at war, have no idea where that system is never been there. 
update, xiate appear to be also sending enemy ship designs, only they sent the whole ship...?... ran one more turn have another ship of ai alien design. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		The Abbidon tend to be treaty-happy... they will send a second treaty request before I can reply to the first.  Their offers are usually bad deals but they will accept reasonable counter treaties. 
 
I once was offered a treaty by another species, don't recall which (probably Xiati)... but it forbade any other treaties, which really pissed off the Abbidon who wouldn't stop requesting treaties. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		In my last game the Terrans sent me a treaty. Amonkrie pretty much do nothing but occasionally demand I leave, but they did accept the treaty I offered (although it was a rather lopsided one; it involved them giving me 15% of their resource income each turn in exchange for nothing at all). 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				MasterChiToes said: I once was offered a treaty by another species, don't recall which (probably Xiati)... but it forbade any other treaties, which really pissed off the Abbidon who wouldn't stop requesting treaties. 
			
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 This could be the solution to why some AIs don't respond to treaties; they've accepted one of these treaties from another AI!  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Maybe so, but they should at least respond turning down the offer 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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