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				C\'Tis - Miasma, Question about cold blodded
	
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		What exactly is the deal with cold blooded and the miasma of MA C'Tis. I just started up a game with C'tis and picked out a high dominion awake combat pretender (Shedu), but then my pretender quickly got a disease. I checked and it wasn't during battle, so he must have gotten it from the miasma. Because of that, I went and looked through the pretender list for units that were "cold blooded". 
 
To my suprise Wyrm wasn't on there, so just to test things out I started up a game with a Wyrm pretender level 10 dom and level 3 death. I've gone through about 50 turns without the pretender getting diseased. I also tried it with an undead pretender to the same effect. 
 
Is the Wyrm pretender immune to the miasma effect even though he isn't listed as "cold blooded"? Are there other pretenders like this? Am I right in assuming that undead are not effected by the miasma dominion? 
 
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				Re: C\'Tis - Miasma, Question about cold blodded
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		It's the swamp survival that saves him. That works in place of cold blooded for miasma protection. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				Re: C\'Tis - Miasma, Question about cold blodded
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		As of at most two few patches ago, undead pretenders did get diseased by the  
miasma.  If this has changed, it's a very welcome fix. 
 
In my most advanced game right now, the only thing that keeps my grubby little 
fingers off C'tis's capital is the bloody miasma.  Still, I love the idea! 
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				Re: C\'Tis - Miasma, Question about cold blodded
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		I tested it again just to make sure. Took it out into late of the 5th year, which is way past 50 turns, and never saw any disease on my undead lich pretender. 
 
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				Re: C\'Tis - Miasma, Question about cold blodded
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Undead can get diseased but they dont lose health from it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				Re: C\'Tis - Miasma, Question about cold blodded
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		The (master) lich is the wrong test case, because he is immortal, and  
can heal afflictions.  I tested it with a low death magic ghost king, 
and sure enough, he was diseased on turn 4. 
 
On the other hand, he is not getting afflictions or losing hit points,  
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				Re: C\'Tis - Miasma, Question about cold blodded
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Yeah, disease has no effect on undead, so it's not really a bug. You can imagine that his dead flesh is infected - but he doesn't care! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				Re: C\'Tis - Miasma, Question about cold blodded
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		 It is annoying to see afflictions on all of your undead and have to verify it is just disease. I think it would be an improvement to eliminate the meaningless hearts the undead get that requires more micromanaging. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Re: C\'Tis - Miasma, Question about cold blodded
			 
             
			
		
		
		
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				Re: C\'Tis - Miasma, Question about cold blodded
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		That is a really good idea. It's so simple but makes so much sense. I feel dumb for not thinking of it myself. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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