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				 Re: Off Forum:  Trillian 
 I did say "ideally".           And the individual citizen does have power over both government and business.  You control those who control government with your vote (or the threat of withholding said vote in the coming election); you control businesses by choosing where you spend your money.
 
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 quote:Originally posted by geoschmo:
 Every time some buisness has commited some horrible act in a misguided persuit of the bottom line, there has been some government agency or indvidual who was responsible for oversight which was either corrupt, inept or misguided and allowed it to happen.
 
 
great, so the government is bad if they interfear with pure capitalism, and they are bad if they dont provide 'moral' guidance and oversite for corporations.
 
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 quote:Originally posted by Puke:
 
 
 great, so the government is bad if they interfear with pure capitalism, and they are bad if they dont provide 'moral' guidance and oversite for corporations.
 
 whatever.
 
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 Government just can't win: it is evil no matter what it does. It's just a matter of what degree of evilness that people are willing to tolerate.
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 Start a topic and take off.   
Sorry people.
 
I have been reading  A scanner Darkly by Philip Dick.  I think it is affecting my thought process     
I do not think Government is evil.  Just look at the civil service that supports your communities.
 
Governments are designed to be self sufficent no matter who is incharge.  
 
The problem lies with the fact that their are too many focus Groups backed by businesses who pressure the government to change laws so they can increase their profit and give more money to focus Groups backed by businesses who pressure the government to change...  
 
I think that the key to sucessful government is to limit the ability that business has to control the government.  And a good start is the corperate wealfare programs.  IBM received 1.4 billion dollars Last year from American tax payers.  They have to stop the slush from moving about.....
 
Sorry about the lack of train of thought in this post.... I am at work and have some PM problems.  Must go.
 
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 Government is a neccesary evil 
I won't dispute your 1.4B figure, cause I just don't know. But is it "slush", or is it investment? How many billions of dollars does IBM pump into the economy each year?
 
Contrast this with myriad of social prorams that contribute nothing to the economy. 100,000 dollars to buy advertisung for a program to provide free tatoo removal for low income people?     
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 And on a brighter note, Cerulean Studios realeased v.0.725 a while ago, and Trillian can connect to the AIM networks again.     http://www.trillian.cc
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 What does that mean went pro? Don't they still take donations?
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 Trillian is now at v0.74, as I just downloaded that Version yesterday.  One change that I noticed was that they removed the little logos they used for the messenger programs.  Perhaps to avoid copyright/trademark issues? |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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