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				 Re: I got the Monster Blues. 
 I'm really looking forward to playing this mod, monsters from space!  How can you beat that?!
 Oh, and speaking of beating that, what Version should we download for the changed research and intel values, thereby making the monsters (potentially) beatable?
 
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				 Re: I got the Monster Blues. 
 Eh, so bad i dont have Gold. Only the monsters itself, from what i read here, are making it worth to buy the game. I would, if i could (lol).
 Is there any Version for the classic SE?
 
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				 Re: I got the Monster Blues. 
 
	Version 1.61 (or later) of the Devnull Mod. You can find it  here.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by jimbob: I'm really looking forward to playing this mod, monsters from space!  How can you beat that?!
 
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	Nope, sorry. The Monsters were made for the Gold Version, but I bet someone could make a Monster Mod for classic SE4. If anybody is up to it, just copy/paste/change anything you like. Drones would have to be removed of course.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Taera: Eh, so bad i dont have Gold. Only the monsters itself, from what i read here, are making it worth to buy the game. I would, if i could (lol).
 
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 I might try, if you dont mind. 
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	In fact I would welcome itQuote: 
	
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				 Re: I got the Monster Blues. 
 I decided to try to be a monster.  (If you can't beat them...join them      ) 
Anyway, I am having a fairly good time actually. 
But you must really load up the AI advantages. 
I used Hard AI, Max AI advantage,all computer vs human setting,5000 point AI's vs 2000 point Monsters,No tactical combat,no colonizing for Monster race(it is possible).
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	how do you do the no colonizing thing (except for not building colony ships)?  im guessing that even with the hardest AI (I think Tampa Gamer made a mod a while back that gave AIs huge cultural modifiers in all categories, i still have it somewhere)  you would dominate as monsters.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Taz-in-Space: I decided to try to be a monster.  (If you can't beat them...join them
  ) Anyway, I am having a fairly good time actually.
 But you must really load up the AI advantages.
 I used Hard AI, Max AI advantage,all computer vs human setting,5000 point AI's vs 2000 point Monsters,No tactical combat,no colonizing for Monster race(it is possible).
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 you can sector cloak your home planet, and even other sectors if you dont let the AI design and build all your ships for you.  as long as you controll your own ships, you should be able to attack with coordinated fleets of worms once you have built up, and there is no fear of reprisal since the AI probably wont get it together to blow up your sun, and you should be able to stop them if they try.
 
 now if you refrained from building sector cloaks, it might be harder.  if you scrapped half of your monster habitats, it might almost be fair.
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				 Re: I got the Monster Blues. 
 The no colonizing is just not building colonys.I also will build no vehicle that the AI design minister doesn't design for me. So far it has made a few dumb moves - example is designing base spaceyards without any spaceyards!! Unless the design minister designs some with spaceyards in them I will only have my one planetary spaceyard.  It's keeping my output of monsters limited to one per turn!
 I recently lost 9 tiny monsters to a homeworld defence force, so I am collecting a full dozen for the next strike. Maybe I will eventually have an easier time once I get larger monsters.
 (yes I do have giant size ones, but so far the minister only created 'mine layer' ship not an attack one. - another dumb decision?)
 I agree without these artificial limitations I would wipe the galaxy clean too easy!
 
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				 Re: I got the Monster Blues. 
 Hi Taz,
 re: base space yards - see my answer in other thread
 
 re: "mine layers" - you probably mean mine sweepers, no? That will make sense when you play against the monsters.
 
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