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		im playing a 2009 battle,U.S.M.C vs Sweden,me as the marines,and my aircraft keep getting shot down very easy,so i was wondering if there worth the points? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		I almost never purchase aircraft. IMHO, too risky that they will never get a good shot on anyone before decent AAA drives them away. When I do choose them, I tend to go for those with standoff attack capability. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				I almost never purchase aircraft. IMHO, too risky that they will never get a good shot on anyone before decent AAA drives them away. When I do choose them, I tend to go for those with standoff attack capability. 
			
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 well i love aircraft till SAM lunchers start showing up more often,i find them very useful till then but after the SAMs show up they keep dyeing on me    
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		If you send aircraft into an area with a high concentration of SAMs they will die. That's what the SAMs were designed to do. There are a wide range of opinions on whether aircraft are useful or not and who you are fighting and when in the game you use them and what direction you send then in and out of and what the visibity is all play a factor. 
 
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				If you send aircraft into an area with a high concentration of SAMs they will die. That's what the SAMs were designed to do. There are a wide range of opinions on whether aircraft are useful or not and who you are fighting and when in the game you use them and what direction you send then in and out of and what the visibity is all play a factor. 
 
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 well the Swedens from what ive played buy those thermal SAMS and they cover a wide area,ive tried a couple of directions with the same result,aircraft DOOMED  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Have you tried SEADs first?  If they are immobile SAMs you can first hit them with artillery. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		80% chance?my guess is that the pilot jettisoned his ecm pod and turned off the ecm to save battery   , check the weapons accuracy, some shoulder launched SAMs are quite effective, i lost a warthog to a strela-3 or something similar, but had a Flanker surviving an I-Hawk  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Well, you can either try to destroy the air refences first, or try to work around them.   
SEAD aircraft are very important in both cases.  They can, usualy, avoid getting hit by sams much.  Use this to your advantage, to locate and destroy the sams or to organise an attack against the other targets you want to you use your planes, by attacking first with the SEAD planes, draw most of the enemy fire and then letting your strike aircraft hit their original targets without much threat. 
Now, if the enemy has bought a stupid amount of air defences, then just deal with it by not buying any aircraft and basicaly making all his purchase points towards air defence, a waste of money. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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