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				Israeli AH-64s with Spike
	
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		The August issue of AirForces Monthly is reporting that Israel has armed their AH-64Ds with Spike ATGMs.  The Spike was tested on the AH-64 in November of 2016 and they were fully operational by May of this year. The Spike equipped version is called the Saraf. Has any one else heard about this? I don't know how reliable this source is. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
            
                  
				
                    
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				Re: Israeli AH-64's with Spike
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		I've been keeping up with  SPIKE for a long time now, it's not a  SPIKE.  Saraf and hopefully my old friend  gingertanker will forgive me if I screw this up, is the IAF designation for their  AH-64D LONGBOW the name means " FIERY SNAKE" appropriately enough. 
 
Currently it can carry the  SPIKE ER/LR (Very soon  LR II, just completed operational tests.) and  NLOS (2014) versions of the missile.
 https://theaviationist.com/tag/israeli-air-force/ 
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				Re: Israeli AH-64's with Spike
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		I thought I'd see what was last posted in this thread " Infantry Served Weapons and Organization" Posts  #'s 28-32 concerning the  SPIKE LR II were discussed 2 months ago there. In one Don indicated he's made the changes already and is awaiting an IDF decision where they'll be using them. For sure one will be their  AH-64D helos. I'm waiting also and am comfortable still they'll be in use by the end of this year or sooner ( Mid-Fall) and available for export by mid-2018.
 
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		https://theaviationist.com/2017/07/2...k-helicopters/
.........IAF AH-64D “Saraf” of the 113 “Hornet” Squadron based at Ramon, Israel, carrying the indigenous Spike missile system in what appear to be the NLOS (Non-Line Of Sight) variant.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Just checked, same one I had in Post #2 above. Just wasn't sure if you had something newer.   
The following seems to make it official as well. Also the news here is that  S. Korea has them as well on their AW-159 WILDCAT. By now Columbia should have them for their updated AH-60L ARPIA at a max. load-out of 16 missiles. Philippines were looking to get them for their naval AW-159 WILDCAT in 2018. And Chile is probably next up. 
http://www.airforcesmonthly.com/2017...ike-on-apache/ 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3415522/posts 
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